Trump White House scrambling now late in the day to quell another Epstein related uproar. Now there are reports that they're going to have this highle meeting tonight. You might have heard about this at the vice president's residence which itself is a bit unusual. Although you could have meetings in any number of places in the evening with top staff. What's different though is that the vice president now is trying to tamp down any expectations that this meeting is about Epstein or will lead to more Epstein ...

Legal and Political Actions - Democrats are using a rarely used law to request the Epstein files, seeking all documents related to the case while protecting victim information and removing child sexual abuse materials [2] - Senator Schumer is leading the effort to access Epstein files, but the enforcement mechanism for Democrats, being in the minority, is uncertain [2] - The House is negotiating with Maxwell's legal team for her testimony, but she has requested congressional immunity, advance questions, testimony outside of prison, and postponement until her appeals are litigated [19][20] - The House committee has responded that they will not grant congressional immunity to Maxwell [21] - The DOJ has submitted a new filing asking a court in New York to unseal the grand jury transcripts related to the Epstein case, arguing high public interest warrants the release [28][29] Presidential Involvement and Statements - The White House has restricted who can discuss Epstein with reporters, but President Trump has continued to address questions on the matter [3] - President Trump introduced new details about a falling out with Jeffrey Epstein, stating Epstein tried to hire employees, including Virginia Giuffre, from his Mar-a-Lago facility [4][5] - President Trump confirmed that Virginia Giuffre, a prominent accuser, was recruited by Maxwell at Mar-a-Lago, corroborating part of her story [10][11] - President Trump has not ruled out a pardon for Ghislaine Maxwell, asserting his presidential power to offer clemency but stating it's not the appropriate time to discuss it [15][16] Concerns and Controversies - Questions are raised about President Trump's knowledge of Epstein's activities at the time and why he considered Epstein a "creep" [11][12] - The release of prison surveillance video from the night Epstein died has raised concerns due to a missing minute and reports of the video being sped up and edited [24][25] - The Attorney General cited a video reset as the reason for the time gap in the surveillance video, but new questions arise if the missing minute isn't missing on another version of the tape [27]

Joining us now, MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin, independent journalist Philip Bump, and MSNBC contributor, former US attorney, and former senior FBI official Chuck Rosenberg. And Chuck, we'll start with you. Um, how unconventional is it to have the assistant AG, yes, the second in command at the DOJ, meet with a potential witness, and let's not forget that this is Trump's former personal attorney in all of this.So, is there a conflict of interest. So Ariel, uh, the Justice Department's been around for ...

Jake Sherman is co-founder of Punch Bowl News and an MSNBC political contributor. With me in studio, MSNBC legal correspondent Lisa Rubin and former federal prosecutor Paul Butler, who's a law professor at Georgetown and an MSNBC legal analyst. And we want to get to all of that, but Lisa, we just got word that Gain Maxwell's attorney has filed a a reply brief in Maxwell's month-long appeal before the Supreme Court.What did we learn. We didn't learn much, Chris, that we didn't already know. And that's becaus ...

Is it going to completely rule out a pardon for Gain Maxwell who landed. Is that something you would ever consider. And why.>> Pardon for who. >> For Gain Maxwell. >> Well, I'm allowed to give her a pardon, but I nobody's approached me with it. Nobody's asked me about it.Um, it's in the news about uh that that aspect of it, but uh right now it would be inappropriate to talk about it. ...

consider would you consider a pardon or a commutation for Eli Maxwell if >> it's something I haven't thought about. It's really something. >> It's I'm allowed to do it, but it's something I have not thought about.>> You wouldn't rule it out. >> All right. So, you could probably hear the audio there, but just in case, basically, that was President Trump claiming that he hasn't thought about pardoning or commuting the sentence of Gileain Maxwell.Now, it is nearly impossible to believe that he has not thought ...

And here in studio with me, Jake La Hut, Wired, senior writer covering politics and the White House. And we're also joined by Christy Greenberg, former SCNY criminal division deputy chief and MSNBC legal analyst, and Abby Livingston, Puck News congressional reporter. Jake, uh, start with you.Let's listen to what the president himself had to say about the possibility of pardoning Glenn Maxwell. >> Would you consider a pardon or a commutation for Elen Maxwell. If >> it's something I haven't thought about. It' ...

We haven't spoken to the president or anybody about a pardon uh just yet. And and you know, listen, uh the president this morning said he had the power to do so. We hope he exercises that power in the right and just way.That was convicted sex trafficker Gerain Maxwell's lawyer, David Marcus, who's been speaking a lot publicly. But he was speaking to reporters earlier today at the conclusion of Maxwell's second day of interviews with the deputy attorney general and former personal lawyer to President Trump, ...

President Trump landed in Scotland just moments ago for a trip that will combine his personal business with this country's business. And while he may be hoping to leave the ongoing controversy over his administration's handling of the Epstein case behind, the president raised new questions as he spoke to reporters before leaving the White House. Mr.. Trump today repeatedly praised Deputy Attorney General Todd Blanch, who previously served as his personal lawyer. Blanch met privately today with Epstein's lon ...