Miles Taylor is a former Republican who worked in the Department of Homeland Security in Trump's first term. Jennifer Welch is the co-host of the I've had a podcast and they join me now. It's good to have you both here.Miles, I'll start with you as someone who um you know came up I think in Republican and conservative circles. Um has been a a staff member. Um does have something changed here.There's been a sort of back and forth of like was it always like this. Is this new. Or is it is it sort of irony gone ...