I've only had a few brief interactions with Kathy. To me, um her private conversations that she's had with individual players um or lack of the conversations have led to some, you know, rocky relationship status uh with the players. And and the one thing that I think the W has always stood on is when the players speak, people need to sit up and listen.And I think she's sitting up and listening now. Um I hope she would have done it done it earlier. I don't know if if she can ever kind of regra retract and an ...

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