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Boise Cascade(BCC) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-04 17:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated third-quarter sales were $1.7 billion, down 3% from the third quarter of 2024 [3] - Net income was $21.8 million, or $0.58 per share, compared to $91 million, or $2.33 per share, in the year-ago quarter [3] - Gross margin for the third quarter was 15.1%, a 60 basis point year-over-year decline [8] - BMD's EBITDA margin was 4.5% for the quarter, down from 5.6% in the year-ago quarter [8] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Wood product sales in the third quarter were $396.4 million, down 13% compared to the third quarter of 2024 [5] - BMD sales in the quarter were $1.6 billion, down 1% from the third quarter of 2024 [5] - I-Joist and LVL volumes were down 10% and 7% respectively compared to the year-ago quarter [6] - Plywood sales volume was $387 million compared to $391 million in the third quarter of 2024 [7] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - U.S. housing starts increased 2% year-over-year, while single-family housing starts decreased 3% [3] - BMD's year-over-year third-quarter sales decline of 1% was driven by a 1% decrease in price, with sales volumes flat [8] - BMD's daily sales pace in October was approximately 5% below the third-quarter sales pace [15] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company remains focused on a two-step distribution model and enhancing its market-leading EWP and plywood franchises [4] - Capital expenditures for the nine months ended September 2025 were $187 million, with a commitment to a capital spending range of $230 million to $250 million for 2025 [10][11] - The company is expanding its market-leading national distribution presence, including the opening of a new distribution center in Texas [11] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expects demand weakness, trade policy uncertainties, and seasonal factors to influence financial results in the fourth quarter [13] - Early industry projections for 2026 are consistent with 2025 housing starts levels, with gradual improvement expected later in the year [17] - The company anticipates that prices for EWP have bottomed and expects to move prices higher as 2026 progresses [18] Other Important Information - The company paid $27 million in regular dividends in the nine months ended September 30, 2025, and has authorized up to $300 million for share repurchases [12] - The company is focused on maintaining a balanced capital deployment strategy, investing in existing assets while pursuing growth opportunities [13] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you talk about share gains in the general line part of the business? - Management noted that demand held up well in general line product categories due to significant investments in capacity and partnerships with suppliers [21][22] Question: Can you discuss competitive dynamics in EWP and pricing confidence? - Management indicated that prices have stabilized and they expect to see improvements in pricing as demand recovers [25][28] Question: What are the constraints for generating higher margins in BMD? - Management expressed confidence in maintaining gross margins above 15% and highlighted the importance of enriching the product mix [32][34] Question: How is the company planning to balance M&A with share repurchases? - Management stated that their priorities remain investing in existing assets and pursuing organic growth, with share repurchases being active in the absence of meaningful M&A [72]
Boise Cascade(BCC) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-06 14:32
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated first quarter sales were $1.5 billion, down 7% from Q1 2024 [7] - Net income was $40.3 million or $1.06 per share, compared to $104.1 million or $2.61 per share in the prior year quarter [7] - Wood Products sales were $415.8 million, down 11% year-over-year [9] - Wood Products segment EBITDA decreased to $40.2 million from $95.6 million in the previous year [9] - BMD sales were $1.4 billion, down 7% from Q1 2024, with segment EBITDA of $62.8 million compared to $83.6 million [10] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Wood Products segment saw lower EWP and plywood sales prices and volumes, with a significant impact from the Oakdale outage [9] - BMD's gross margin was 14.7%, a decline of 40 basis points year-over-year [10] - LVL and I joists volumes were down 3%, better than the 6% decline in single-family housing starts [10] - Plywood sales volume was 363 million feet, down from 372 million feet in Q1 2024 [11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - U.S. housing starts decreased 26% year-over-year, impacting demand [7] - Daily sales pace in BMD improved in April, approximately 13% higher than Q1 2025 [15] - Weather significantly influenced sales activity, with January and February below $21.5 million daily, rebounding in March [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on strategic investments and capital returns to shareholders, supported by a strong balance sheet [8] - Continued emphasis on two-step distribution model to support customer inventory management [26] - Ongoing modernization projects at Oakdale are expected to enhance EWP production capabilities [17] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - The management expressed uncertainty regarding 2025 end market demand, with forecasts ranging from flat to mid-single digit declines [21] - Long-term demand drivers remain strong, characterized by housing undersupply and aging housing stock [22] - The company remains agile and prepared to respond to economic changes while focusing on customer service [22] Other Important Information - Capital expenditures in Q1 were $53 million, with a range of $220 million to $240 million expected for 2025 [17] - The company repurchased $71 million of common stock in the first four months of 2025 [19] - The Oakdale facility is expected to be fully operational by the end of Q2 2025 [17] Q&A Session Summary Question: Thoughts on general line side of the business and inventory positions - Management noted that customers are relying on two-step distribution for inventory management and new product introductions [26] Question: Update on Oakdale project and ramp-up - The Oakdale facility is expected to shift veneer back into EWP production as it comes back online [29] Question: Capital allocation priorities and M&A pipeline - Management indicated a quiet M&A pipeline but remains open to opportunities while focusing on organic growth and share repurchases [30] Question: EWP pricing expectations for Q2 - Management expects low single-digit sequential pricing declines, with competitive pressures remaining [40] Question: Competitive pressures in EWP - Competitive challenges are primarily from existing EWP producers rather than dimensional lumber or open web trusses [52] Question: Impact of recent transactions in the industry - Management emphasized the importance of executing at a high level amidst ongoing industry consolidation [82]
Boise Cascade(BCC) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-06 13:30
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated first quarter sales were $1.5 billion, down 7% from Q1 2024 [6] - Net income was $40.3 million or $1.06 per share, compared to $104.1 million or $2.61 per share in the prior year quarter [6] - Wood Products sales were $415.8 million, down 11% year-over-year [8] - BMD sales were $1.4 billion, down 7% from Q1 2024 [9] - Overall EBITDA for Wood Products was $40.2 million, significantly lower than $95.6 million in the previous year [8] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Wood Products segment EBITDA decreased primarily due to lower EWP and plywood sales prices and volumes [8] - BMD's gross margin was 14.7%, a decline of 40 basis points year-over-year [10] - EWP volumes were down 3%, which was better than the 6% decline in single-family housing starts [10] - Plywood sales volume was 363 million feet, down from 372 million feet in Q1 2024 [11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - U.S. housing starts decreased by 26% year-over-year, impacting demand [6] - Daily sales pace in BMD improved in March, exceeding $24 million per day [12] - April's daily sales pace was approximately 13% higher than Q1 2025, indicating a rebound in demand [15] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on strategic investments and returning capital to shareholders, supported by a strong balance sheet [7] - Capital expenditures for 2025 are projected between $220 million and $240 million, with significant investments in EWP production capabilities [16] - The company is prepared to respond to economic changes while maintaining a focus on long-term demand drivers in residential construction [20] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that 2025 end market demand expectations are difficult to predict, with forecasts ranging from flat to mid-single-digit declines [20] - The company remains confident in its ability to execute across all market conditions, emphasizing the strength of its team [21] - Long-term demand drivers remain strong, characterized by an undersupply of housing units and aging housing stock [22] Other Important Information - The Oakdale facility's modernization is expected to be completed by the end of Q2, which will enhance EWP production [7] - The company repurchased $71 million of common stock in the first four months of 2025 [18] - A quarterly dividend of $10 million was paid during the quarter, with plans for future dividends [17] Q&A Session Summary Question: Thoughts on general line side of the business and inventory positions - Management noted that customers are relying heavily on two-step distribution for inventory management and just-in-time services [25] Question: Update on the Oakdale project and macro environment - The Oakdale facility is expected to resume operations, with veneer supply shifting back to EWP production [29] Question: Capital allocation priorities and M&A pipeline - Management indicated a quiet M&A pipeline but remains open to opportunities that align with growth strategy [30] Question: EWP pricing expectations for Q2 - Management expects low single-digit sequential pricing declines, similar to Q1 [38] Question: Competitive pressures in EWP - Competitive challenges are primarily from existing EWP producers rather than dimensional lumber or open web trusses [49] Question: Update on LVL volumes and share gains - LVL volumes are starting to outpace production, indicating a positive trend [62] Question: Inventory levels and market conditions - Management feels confident about inventory levels, which are aligned with market demands [76] Question: Impact of recent transactions in the industry - Management believes they are well-positioned amidst ongoing industry consolidation and will focus on high-level execution [78]