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Equitable(EQH) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-06 14:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Non-GAAP operating earnings were $352 million or $1.1 per share, down 23% year over year on a per share basis [5][20] - Adjusted for notable items, non-GAAP operating EPS was $1.41, down 8% compared to the prior year, primarily due to elevated individual life mortality claims [5][20] - Total assets under management and administration rose 8% year over year to $1.1 trillion, indicating strong future earnings growth potential [22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Retirement businesses produced $1.9 billion of net inflows in the second quarter, driven by strong rider sales and $250 million of BlackRock LifePath paycheck net inflows [6] - Wealth Management had $2 billion of advisory net inflows, with a trailing twelve-month organic growth rate of 12% [6] - Asset management reported net outflows of $6.7 billion, but returned to net inflow in June, with AUM up 20% year over year to $77 billion [7][15] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company experienced a strong recovery in markets, which is expected to support future growth in spread and fee-based earnings [6] - The trailing twelve-month organic growth rate in Wealth Management was 12%, indicating robust market demand [15] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on organic growth across retirement, asset management, and wealth management businesses, leveraging an integrated business model [4][33] - The individual life reinsurance transaction with RGA is expected to reduce earnings volatility and enhance returns on capital [10][29] - The company aims to grow annual cash generation to $2 billion by 2027 and maintain a payout ratio of 60% to 70% [11][32] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving financial targets for 2027, with expectations for EPS growth to accelerate in 2025 due to recovering markets and reduced mortality exposure [33] - The company anticipates a strong second half of the year, driven by record AUM levels and higher investment portfolio yields [28][33] Other Important Information - The company returned $318 million to shareholders in the second quarter, representing a 74% payout ratio, above the target range [8][31] - The company plans to execute at least $500 million of incremental share repurchases and repay some debt before year-end [9][32] Q&A Session Summary Question: How should we think about the growth in earnings beyond the third quarter baseline? - Management indicated that the baseline for third quarter earnings is $220 million to $225 million, with expectations for growth supported by equity market rebounds [36][38] Question: Is there sensitivity to the outlook if the Fed starts cutting rates? - Management clarified that profitability is more influenced by ten-year treasury rates and corporate spreads rather than short-term rates [45] Question: How do the economics of products sold through Wealth Management compare to third-party sales? - Management noted that products sold through Wealth Management have better persistency and higher margins due to closer client relationships [46] Question: What is the plan for capital management post extraordinary dividends? - Management plans to use excess capital for share buybacks and debt reduction, with a disciplined approach to any potential acquisitions [50][55] Question: How long is the RILA roll-off dynamic expected to continue? - Management expects the older business to run off over the next few quarters, with a focus on maintaining growth momentum [72][74] Question: What benefits does the Bermuda entity provide? - The Bermuda entity allows for better management of cash flows and reduces volatility related to hedging, enhancing consistency in cash flow [75][79]