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Annaly(NLY) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-24 14:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The book value per share decreased by 3% from the prior quarter to $18.45, while earnings available for distribution per share increased by $0.01 to $0.73, exceeding the dividend for the quarter [20][21] - The economic return for Q2 was 0.7%, marking the seventh consecutive quarter of positive economic returns, with a year-to-date economic return of 3.7% and total shareholder return exceeding 10% [9][20] - The investment portfolio yield increased to 5.41% from 5.23% in the prior quarter, while average repo rates decreased to 4.53% [21][22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Agency portfolio's market value rose to nearly $80 billion, a 6% increase quarter-over-quarter, with a $4.5 billion growth in notional terms [10][11] - The residential credit portfolio remained stable at $6.6 billion in market value, with Onslow Bay achieving record securitization activity of $3.6 billion across seven transactions [13][14] - The Mortgage Servicing Rights (MSR) portfolio ended the quarter unchanged at $3.3 billion, with solid performance metrics including a three-month CPR of 4.6% and serious delinquencies unchanged at 50 basis points [17][18] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The U.S. economy is projected to grow at around 1% annualized for the first half of the year, with an unemployment rate of 4.1% [6][8] - Inflation is expected to run at the slowest level in the past three quarters, with the Fed anticipated to deliver two interest rate cuts in 2025 [7][8] - Agency MBS spreads widened by 5 to 10 basis points during the quarter, despite improvements in market sentiment [9][10] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maintain a strong focus on the agency sector while strategically growing its residential credit and MSR portfolios [18] - The management is optimistic about the agency sector fundamentals and potential catalysts for improvement, including GSE reform [12][18] - The company has diversified its funding sources significantly, enhancing liquidity and operational flexibility [23][24] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the ability to cover and potentially out-earn the dividend for the remainder of the year, citing a conducive environment for achieving close to the dividend yield [28][29] - The company is well-positioned to navigate macroeconomic uncertainties, with a focus on managing rate risk and maintaining low leverage [34][40] - The outlook remains positive, with expectations for continued strong risk-adjusted returns in the current environment [18][19] Other Important Information - The company raised over $750 million of accretive capital in Q2, predominantly deployed in the agency sector, leading to a modest increase in leverage to 5.8 turns [9][10] - The MSR portfolio's valuation improved modestly due to a steepening yield curve and lower implied volatility [17][18] Q&A Session Summary Question: Update on book value quarter to date - The pre-dividend accrual book was up about 0.5%, indicating a 1.5% economic return [27] Question: Comfort level with the dividend - Management expressed confidence in covering the dividend, with expectations to out-earn it for the remainder of the year [28] Question: Managing the portfolio through volatility - The company maintained a good liquidity position and managed exposure carefully, allowing leverage to drift higher while focusing on rate risk [33][34] Question: Expectations for GSE reform - Management expects GSE reform to be prioritized, which could create opportunities for the company in the origination space [56] Question: Demand for Agency MBS - Demand from fixed income funds has been strong, with expectations for MBS spreads to tighten even without additional demand from banks [75][76] Question: Outlook for residential credit issuance - The company anticipates robust issuance in the second half of the year, tracking to be the highest since 2021 [81] Question: Impact of tariffs on inflation - Management acknowledged that inflation will pass through due to tariffs, but they remain optimistic about achieving the expected Fed cuts [92][96]
Annaly(NLY) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-24 14:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The book value per share decreased by 3% from the prior quarter to $18.45, while earnings available for distribution per share increased by $0.01 to $0.73, exceeding the dividend for the quarter [19][20] - The economic return for Q2 was 0.7%, bringing the year-to-date economic return to 3.7% [7][20] - The net interest spread excluding PAA increased to 1.47% in Q2 compared to 1.24% a year ago, and the net interest margin excluding PAA was 1.71% in Q2 compared to 1.58% in Q2 2024 [21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Agency portfolio ended the quarter at nearly $80 billion in market value, up 6% quarter over quarter, with a growth of approximately $4.5 billion in notional terms [9][10] - The residential credit portfolio remained relatively unchanged at $6.6 billion in market value, with Onslow Bay achieving its highest quarterly securitization activity to date, closing $3.6 billion across seven transactions [12][13] - The MSR portfolio ended the quarter unchanged at $3.3 billion in market value, with solid fundamental performance and a three-month CPR of 4.6% [15][16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The U.S. economy is expected to grow around 1% annualized for the first half of the year, with an unemployment rate marginally lowered to 4.1% [5][6] - Inflation is likely to have run at the slowest level in the past three quarters, with the Fed expected to deliver two interest rate cuts in 2025 [6][7] - Agency MBS spreads widened by 5 to 10 basis points on the quarter, despite a positive reversal in sentiment towards risk assets [7][9] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company remains optimistic about the agency sector, citing sound fundamentals and potential catalysts for improvement in Agency MBS technicals [11] - The focus is on further building out flow servicing relationships and expanding subservicing and recapture partnerships to capitalize on MSR opportunities [17] - The company plans to strategically grow its residential credit and MSR portfolios while maintaining a flexible investment approach with low leverage and ample liquidity [17] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that the macroeconomic environment has shown resilience, with a balanced labor market and muted layoffs, affirming the Fed's wait-and-see stance [5][6] - The company expects to be overweight in agency investments due to historically attractive spread levels, while also anticipating growth in residential credit and MSR portfolios [17] - Management expressed confidence in covering and potentially out-earning the dividend for the remainder of the year, given the current economic return [27][28] Other Important Information - The company raised over $750 million of accretive capital in Q2, predominantly deployed in the agency sector, with leverage increasing modestly to 5.8 turns [8] - The company has diversified its funding sources significantly, with non-mark-to-market capacity growing from $150 million to $1.9 billion [22][23] Q&A Session Summary Question: Update on book value quarter to date - The book value was up about 0.5% pre-dividend accrual, indicating a 1.5% economic return [26] Question: Comfort level with the dividend - Management expressed confidence in covering the dividend, expecting to out-earn it for the remainder of the year [27][28] Question: Managing the portfolio through volatility - Management was comfortable allowing leverage to rise due to a strong liquidity position and focused on managing rate exposure [32][34] Question: Dynamics of the credit portfolio - The quality of the credit portfolio is high, with proactive measures taken to tighten credit standards [45][46] Question: Expectations for GSE reform - Management expects GSE reform to be prioritized now that the tax bill is completed, which could create opportunities for the company [56] Question: Demand for Agency MBS - Demand from fixed income funds has been strong, and the company expects MBS spreads to tighten even without additional demand from banks [76][77]
Annaly(NLY) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-01 13:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The economic return for Q1 2025 was 3%, consistent with the previous quarter, with earnings available for distribution per share at $0.72 [18][19] - Book value per share slightly declined to $19.02, a decrease of less than 1% quarter over quarter [19][22] - The common stock dividend was increased from $0.65 to $0.70 per share, reflecting earnings momentum [7][19] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Agency portfolio saw a notional growth of $3.5 billion, driven by purchases of intermediate coupon TBAs [10][11] - The Residential Credit portfolio decreased by $340 million quarter over quarter, ending at $6.6 billion in market value [12][13] - The Mortgage Servicing Rights (MSR) portfolio remained relatively unchanged at $3.3 billion in market value [15][16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Economic leverage increased modestly to 5.7 turns, remaining at the low end of the historical range [9][19] - The housing market showed signs of regional disparity, with home price appreciation slowing down due to increased inventory and affordability issues [13][60] - Inventory levels increased by 18% year over year, impacting existing home sales, which were at their lowest since February [57][58] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maintain a conservative leverage approach amidst market volatility while focusing on agency investments due to attractive returns [17][37] - The strategic alignment with industry-leading sub-servicing partners is expected to create competitive advantages in the MSR business [15][16] - The company is optimistic about the potential for regulatory reforms that could positively impact the market dynamics [32][71] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that the macroeconomic environment remains uncertain, with volatility expected to persist [9][17] - The outlook for the housing market is stable in the long term, supported by low delinquencies and tight underwriting standards, despite short-term pullbacks [60][61] - The company is prepared for potential market fluctuations with a diversified and actively managed portfolio [17][22] Other Important Information - The company has approximately $7.5 billion in assets available for financing, reflecting a $600 million increase compared to the previous quarter [22] - The weighted average repo days extended to 50 days, indicating a strategic shift in financing [21] Q&A Session Summary Question: Update on book value quarter to date - The book value was off roughly 3.5% as of the latest update, improving from a 4.5% decline post-Easter [25] Question: Outlook for spreads and regulatory impacts - Swap spreads have tightened due to volatility, and regulatory reforms are anticipated to positively influence market conditions [26][32] Question: Thoughts on leverage amidst spread widening - The company is balancing the opportunity to increase leverage against the risks posed by high volatility [36][37] Question: Housing price moderation and systemic risks - Housing price increases are regional, with some areas experiencing declines, but overall, the market remains stable due to strong borrower equity [60][61] Question: Agency portfolio supply-demand dynamics - Demand from fixed income funds was strong before recent volatility, with banks and REITs also showing reasonable demand [85] Question: Impact of rate and spread volatility on loan acquisitions - The company is adopting a more defensive posture in response to increased spreads, but lock volumes remain stable [90]
Annaly(NLY) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-01 13:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported earnings available for distribution per share of $0.72, consistent with the prior quarter, driven by lower average repo rates of 4.56% compared to 4.93% in the previous quarter [18] - The book value per share was $19.02, reflecting a modest decline of less than 1% quarter over quarter [18] - The economic return for Q1 was 3%, with individual business segments contributing positively despite a challenging macro environment [18] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Agency portfolio saw a notional growth of $3.5 billion, driven by purchases of intermediate coupon TBAs [9] - The Residential Credit portfolio ended the quarter at $6.6 billion in market value, with a decrease of $340 million quarter over quarter due to opportunistic sales and increased securitizations [11] - The Mortgage Servicing Rights (MSR) portfolio remained relatively unchanged at $3.3 billion in market value, with $28 billion in principal balance settled during Q1 [14] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Economic leverage increased modestly to 5.7 turns, remaining at the low end of the historical range [6] - The housing market is showing signs of increased regional disparity, with some areas experiencing a modest reversal in home price appreciation trends [12] - Inventory levels have increased, with a year-over-year rise of 18%, impacting the spring selling season [58] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maintain a conservative leverage approach amidst market volatility, balancing the opportunity to increase leverage with the risks associated with high volatility [38] - The focus remains on agency investments as spreads have cheapened, while also continuing to grow the OBX platform for loan acquisition and securitization [76] - The company is strategically aligned with industry-leading sub-servicing partners to enhance efficiency and technological investment in the mortgage industry [15] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed concerns about the impact of U.S. trade policy on consumer and business confidence, which may affect economic growth [7] - Despite the uncertain outlook, the company believes its diversified and actively managed portfolio positions it well to perform across various economic scenarios [17] - The management remains optimistic about the housing market's long-term stability due to low delinquencies and tight underwriting standards, despite short-term pullbacks in certain regions [62] Other Important Information - The company increased its common stock dividend to $0.70 per share, underscoring earnings momentum [6] - The total assets available for financing increased to approximately $7.5 billion, reflecting enhanced liquidity [22] Q&A Session Summary Question: Update on book value quarter to date - The book value was off roughly 3.5% as of Tuesday evening, improving from a 4.5% decline post-Easter [26] Question: Outlook for spreads and regulatory impacts - Swap spreads have tightened due to volatility, and regulatory reforms are anticipated to positively impact market conditions in the future [27][33] Question: Thoughts on leverage given current market conditions - The company is maintaining a conservative leverage approach due to high volatility, despite wider spreads suggesting a potential increase in risk [37][39] Question: Supply-demand dynamics in the agency portfolio - There was strong demand from fixed income funds and banks, but foreign demand, particularly from Asian accounts, remains limited [87][88] Question: Impact of housing price moderation on the market - Housing prices have increased significantly since 2019, but recent inventory increases may lead to short-term pullbacks in certain regions [58][62]