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Wabash National(WNC) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-25 17:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q2, consolidated revenue was $459 million, with gross margins at 9% and breakeven adjusted operating margins [23] - Adjusted EBITDA was $16 million, or 3.6% of sales, while adjusted net income attributable to common stockholders was negative $6.1 million, or negative $0.15 per diluted share [23] - Year-to-date operating cash flow was negative $16.1 million, with liquidity at $312 million as of June 30 [24] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Transportation Solutions generated revenue of $400 million and operating income of $13 million, while Parts and Services generated revenue of $60 million and operating income of $9.1 million [24] - Parts and Services segment grew 15% sequentially and 8.8% year over year, with EBITDA margins returning to the high teens [16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Demand remains muted across the trailer industry, with shipment volumes expected to fall below basic replacement demand in 2025 [12] - The backlog declined to approximately $1 billion at the end of Q2, reflecting cautious customer behavior in capital spending [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on building resilient and recurring revenue streams through the Parts and Services segment, which is seen as a key driver of long-term stability and growth [6][21] - The company is committed to operational efficiency and cost discipline to offset inflationary pressures and rising costs [10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that economic conditions remain softer than anticipated, with customers showing increased hesitation in capital spending [5] - The company expects to be near free cash flow breakeven for 2025, excluding capital investments in trailers as a service, and is cautiously optimistic about a return to growth in 2026 [13][30] Other Important Information - The company is actively engaged in legal matters stemming from a 2019 motor vehicle accident and is pursuing all available legal options [11] - Capital allocation priorities remain disciplined and growth-oriented, with a focus on maintaining dividends and evaluating share repurchases [25] Q&A Session Summary Question: Update on the overall trailer cycle for 2026 - Management indicated that capacity exiting the market is a key factor to watch for order rates to pick up, along with the fundamental freight-producing subsectors [35][36] Question: Industry efficiency with fewer assets - Management noted that there hasn't been substantial efficiency gains at scale, and the net inefficiency remains greater than efficiency created [40] Question: Details on parts and service growth - Management expressed confidence in continued growth for the Parts and Services segment, expecting a 20% improvement in the second half of the year [41][42] Question: Clarification on CapEx and investment in trailers as a service - Management confirmed that the $30 million to $40 million CapEx does not include investments in trailers as a service, which is separate [46] Question: Average sales price changes and driving factors - Management explained that the sequential drop in average sales price was primarily mix-driven, with a higher percentage of dry vans affecting ASP [49][51] Question: Market outlook and potential recovery - Management acknowledged the current market challenges but expressed hope that the darkest days may be behind, contingent on future market conditions [60][62]
Wabash National(WNC) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-07-25 16:00
Financial Performance - Q2 2025 - Revenue for Q2 2025 was $459 million[17] - GAAP EPS was $(0.23), while non-GAAP adjusted EPS was $(0.15)[13, 17] This excludes the appeal bond associated with the legal verdict[13] - Operating income was $(4.8) million, with an operating margin of (1.0)%, while non-GAAP adjusted operating income was $(0.1) million with an operating margin of 0.0%[17] - Net loss attributable to common stockholders was $(9.6) million, while the non-GAAP adjusted net loss was $(6.1) million[17] Segment Performance - Q2 2025 - Transportation Solutions revenue was $400 million with an operating margin of 3.1%[20] - Parts & Services revenue was $60 million with an operating margin of 15.2%[20] Cash Flow & Capital Allocation - Q2 2025 - Free cash flow was $(22.8) million[23] - Capital expenditures totaled $6.2 million[25] - Expenditures for revenue generating assets were $0.7 million[25] - Dividends paid amounted to $3.4 million[25] - Share repurchases totaled $10.4 million[25] 2025 Financial Outlook - The company reduced its 2025 outlook to a revenue midpoint of $1.6 billion and a non-GAAP adjusted EPS midpoint of $(1.15)[13, 28]
Wabash National(WNC) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-04-30 11:19
Financial Performance - Revenue for Q1 2025 was $381 million[17] - GAAP Operating Income was $314.6 million, while Non-GAAP Adjusted Operating Loss was $(27.4) million[17] - GAAP Diluted EPS was $5.36, while Non-GAAP Adjusted Diluted EPS was $(0.58)[17] - Net cash used in operating activities was $(0.3) million, and free cash flow was $(29.1) million[24] Segment Performance - Transportation Solutions revenue was $347 million with an operating margin of (2.8)%[20] - Parts & Services revenue was $52 million with an operating margin of 13.3%[20] - Transportation Solutions adjusted segment EBITDA margin was 0.8%, while Parts & Services adjusted segment EBITDA margin was 15.5%[43] 2025 Outlook - The company reduced its 2025 outlook to a revenue midpoint of $1.8 billion and a Non-GAAP adjusted EPS midpoint of $(0.60)[13] - SG&A is projected to be approximately $170 million, and capital expenditures are expected to be between $50 million and $60 million[31] Capital Allocation - Capital expenditures accounted for 18.8% ($8.7 million), expenditures for revenue generating assets accounted for 43.3% ($20.1 million), dividends accounted for 8.4% ($3.9 million), and share repurchases accounted for 29.5% ($13.7 million) of Q1 capital allocation[26]