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Youdao(DAO) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-20 11:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q3 2025, net revenues reached RMB 1.6 billion, up 3.6% year-over-year, while operating profit was RMB 28.3 million, a decline of 73.7% year-over-year due to increased investments and a high comparison base from the previous year [4][16][19] - For the first nine months of 2025, operating profit reached RMB 161.1 million, representing a substantial 149.2% year-over-year increase [5] - Operating cash outflow for the quarter was RMB 58.6 million, an improvement of 31.4% year-over-year [5][20] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Learning services segment net revenues were RMB 643.1 million, down 16.2% year-over-year, reflecting a strategic approach to customer acquisition [6][16] - Online marketing services net revenues reached RMB 739.7 million, a record increase of 51.1% year-over-year, driven by demand from the NetEase Group and overseas markets [10][17] - Smart devices segment net revenues were RMB 245.8 million, down 22.1% year-over-year, due to disciplined marketing expenditures [14][17] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Youdao Ling Shi achieved over 40% year-over-year growth in gross billings, with a retention rate exceeding 75% [7][28] - The online marketing services segment saw advertising revenues from the gaming industry grow by over 50% year-over-year [11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on deepening the application of AI technologies across both learning and advertising businesses to create value for customers [15][28] - A commitment to maintaining disciplined operations while achieving full-year targets, including robust year-over-year operating profit growth and reaching annual operational cash flow break-even for the first time [15][19] Management Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving full-year cash flow break-even despite cumulative net operating cash outflow in the first three quarters, citing significant improvements in cash flow performance [50][52] - The company anticipates strong revenue growth in both learning and advertising segments, with a focus on AI-driven services [26][28] Other Important Information - Youdao was included in the 2026 GSV 150, highlighting its position as a transformational growth company in digital learning [7] - The company launched several new AI-driven products, including an AI tutor for programming classes and an upgraded Youdao Dictionary app, which received positive user feedback [9][10] Q&A Session Summary Question: Will online marketing services become more important than learning services in the future? - Management sees growth opportunities in both areas, with online marketing services currently experiencing higher growth due to advanced ad tech and AI capabilities [24][25] Question: What plans are in place to recover online marketing gross margins? - Management aims to improve gross margins through initiatives like the iMagicBox creative production platform and optimizing the data management platform [32][35] Question: What is the potential for operating profit rebound in Q4? - Management is optimistic about achieving operating profit improvement in Q4, supported by strong performance in Youdao Ling Shi and advertising growth [39][41] Question: Should we expect any change to the full-year break-even target given the cash outflow? - Management remains confident in achieving the full-year cash flow break-even target, citing significant year-over-year improvements and expected strong performance in Q4 [48][52]
Youdao(DAO) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-20 11:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q3 2025, net revenues reached RMB 1.6 billion, up 3.6% year-over-year, while operating profit was RMB 28.3 million, a decline of 73.7% year-over-year due to increased investments and a high comparison base from the previous year [4][5][16] - For the first nine months of the year, operating profit reached RMB 161.1 million, representing a substantial 149.2% year-over-year increase [5] - Operating cash outflow for the quarter was RMB 58.6 million, an improvement of 31.4% year-over-year [5] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Learning services segment net revenues were RMB 643.1 million, down 16.2% year-over-year, reflecting a strategic approach to customer acquisition [6][17] - Online marketing services net revenues reached RMB 739.7 million, a new record and an increase of 51.1% year-over-year, driven by demand from the NetEase Group and overseas markets [10][11][17] - Smart devices segment net revenues were RMB 245.8 million, down 22.1% year-over-year, due to disciplined marketing expenditures [14][17] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Youdao Ling Shi achieved over 40% year-over-year growth in gross billings, with a retention rate exceeding 75% [7][27] - Advertising revenues from the gaming industry grew by over 50% year-over-year, primarily from NetEase [11] - The overseas advertising business delivered strong momentum, with revenues growing by more than 100% year-over-year [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on executing an AI-native strategy, enhancing the application of its large language model across learning and advertising businesses [15][42] - There is a commitment to driving growth in both learning and advertising sectors by leveraging AI technologies [27][42] - The company aims to achieve full-year targets, including robust year-over-year operating profit growth and reaching annual operational cash flow break-even for the first time [15][42] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving full-year cash flow break-even despite cumulative net operating cash outflow recorded in the first three quarters [50] - The company anticipates strong revenue growth in both learning services and online marketing services, with a focus on customer satisfaction and operational efficiency [25][40] - Management highlighted the importance of investments in AI capabilities to enhance advertising performance and customer engagement [25][36] Other Important Information - Youdao was included in the 2026 GSV 150, recognizing it as one of the world's most transformational growth companies in digital learning [7] - The company launched several new AI-driven products, including an AI tutor for programming classes and a new AI audio and video translation product [8][10] Q&A Session Summary Question: Will online marketing services become more important than learning services in the future? - Management sees growth opportunities in both areas, with online marketing services currently experiencing higher growth due to advanced ad tech and AI capabilities [24] Question: What is the plan to return online marketing gross margin above 30%? - Management aims to improve gross margin through initiatives like broadening the application of the iMagicBox platform and optimizing data management systems [32][35] Question: What is the potential for operating profit rebound in Q4? - Management is optimistic about achieving operating profit improvement in Q4, supported by strong performance in Youdao Ling Shi and advertising growth [38][41] Question: Should we expect any change to the full-year break-even target? - Management remains confident in achieving the full-year cash flow break-even target, citing significant improvements in cash flow performance [47][50]
Youdao(DAO) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-20 11:00
Youdao (NYSE:DAO) Q3 2025 Earnings Call November 20, 2025 05:00 AM ET Speaker0Good day, and welcome to Youdao Q3 2025 earnings conference call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Jeffrey Wang, Investor Relations Director of Youdao. Please go ahead.Speaker2Thank you, Operator. Please note the discussion today will contain information related to the future performance of the company, which are intended to qualify for the safe harbor from liabili ...
Youdao(DAO) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-11-20 10:00
I n v e s t o r R e l a t i o n s , F e b r u a r y 2 3 , 2 0 2 3 This presentation contains forward-looking statements. These statements are made under the "safe harbor" provisions of the U.S. Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Statements that are not historical facts, including statements about the Company's beliefs and expectations, are forward-looking statements. Forward-looking statements involve inherent risks and uncertainties, and a number of factors could cause actual results to diff ...
Youdao(DAO) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-14 11:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported its first profitable second quarter with operating income of RMB28.8 million compared to an operating loss of RMB72.6 million in the same period last year [6] - Net revenues reached RMB1.4 billion, an increase of 7.2% year over year [6][20] - Operating cash inflow was RMB185 million, down 26.1% year over year, primarily due to strategic scaling back of certain courses [7] - Total gross profit was RMB609.4 million, representing a 4.3% decrease from the same period of 2024 [21] - Non-GAAP net income attributable to ordinary shareholders was RMB12.5 million compared to a non-GAAP net loss of RMB96 million for the same period last year [23] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net revenues from learning services rose 2.2% year over year to RMB657.8 million, driven by strong performance in Youdao Ling Shi [7][21] - Net revenues from online marketing services reached RMB632.9 million, up 23.8% year over year, driven by demand from the gaming industry and overseas markets [12][21] - Net revenues from smart devices declined 23.9% year over year to RMB126.8 million, attributed to the end of product life cycles and reduced marketing expenditure [15][21] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The gaming advertising segment saw revenue growth of more than 50% year over year, supported by collaborations with major gaming advertisers [13] - The overseas market contributed significantly to growth, with revenue from partnerships with TikTok and Google increasing significantly [64] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to advance its AI native strategy, focusing on scenario-based optimizations of large language models to enhance learning and advertising services [18] - There is a strong emphasis on integrating hardware and learning services to improve operational efficiency and reduce sales and marketing expenses [40] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving operating cash flow breakeven despite a year-over-year decline in operating cash inflow [52][56] - The company anticipates stronger cash flow performance in the second half of the year, driven by improved profitability and operational efficiency [54] Other Important Information - The company launched several AI-driven features and products, including the AI essay grading feature and the Confucius III language model, which received positive feedback [8][10] - The company signed 12 gold medalists from the National Olympiads in Informatics to enhance its teaching and R&D capabilities [9] Q&A Session Summary Question: Update on the third quarter outlook for Youdao Ling Shi - Management noted that Youdao Ling Shi's revenue increased by roughly 30% year over year, with a retention rate exceeding 75%, indicating strong user satisfaction and a solid foundation for future growth [28][30] Question: Improvement in Smart Device segment revenue - Management stated that while revenue declined in Q2, the health of the hardware business improved compared to the previous year, with a focus on dictionary pens and new tutoring pens expected to drive future growth [36][39] Question: Specific applications of AI ad placement optimizer - The AI ad placement optimizer covers the entire advertising delivery process, enhancing targeting strategies and optimizing ad delivery, which is expected to support revenue growth and profitability improvement [44][48] Question: Revision on the target for achieving operating cash flow breakeven - Management confirmed that despite a decrease in operating cash flow, the target for achieving breakeven remains unchanged, supported by improved profitability and operational efficiency [52][56] Question: Growth drivers in gaming and overseas markets - Management highlighted a 50% year-over-year increase in gaming revenue and significant growth in overseas markets, particularly through partnerships with TikTok and Google [63][64]
Youdao(DAO) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-05-15 11:35
Financial Performance (1Q25) - Net revenues reached RMB 1,298.3 million [4], compared to RMB 1,391.9 million in 1Q24 [4] and RMB 1,339.8 million in 4Q24 [4] - Online marketing services revenue increased by 2.6% year-over-year to RMB 505.4 million [26] - Smart devices revenue increased by 5.1% year-over-year to RMB 190.5 million [37] - Net income attributable to ordinary shareholders of the company was RMB 76.743 million [43] - Operating cash flow net outflows narrowed by 34.7% in 1Q25 [8] Business Segments - Learning services revenue was RMB 602.4 million [43] - Youdao is positioned as an AI-powered solutions provider for learning and advertising [15] AI Strategy and Products - The company is focusing on an AI strategy, integrating AI with learning services, smart devices, and online marketing services [11] - AI-based college admission advisers were upgraded in 1Q25, contributing to over 25% year-over-year gross billing growth [21] - Youdao SpaceOne, an AI-powered large screen tutoring pen, launched in 1Q25 and contributed to over 20% year-over-year growth in dictionary pen revenue [41] Online Marketing Services - Youdao established an official partnership with Google in 1Q25 for overseas advertising expansion [27] - Youdao MagicBox, an AI-powered creative suite, was launched in 1Q25 [29]