FY25 Annual Result Section 1: Highlights and key themes Section 2: Business overview Section 3: Financial performance Section 4: Capital partnering and investment update Section 5: Portfolio update Section 6: Development update Section 7: Summary FY25 operational highlights Operational excellence • 97% portfolio occupancy 27 August 2025 Replace photo with non-construction Agenda Appendices Precinct Properties – FY25 Annual Result 2 Financial performance Active capital management Precinct Properties – FY25 A ...

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total assets of Abacus Group are valued at $2.6 billion with a weighted average cap rate of 6.77% as of FY 2025 [1] - The group announced a distribution to investors of $0.85 per security, flat compared to FY 2024 despite a lower asset base [2] - Gearing for the group is at 34.5%, comfortably within the target range [2] - Like-for-like operating earnings rose by 7.7% for the year, with office income increasing by 9.8% [5][6] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Office operating earnings increased by 9.8% year on year, supported by like-for-like rental growth of 4.3% [3][5] - Retail operating earnings grew by 8.8%, driven by rental reviews of 3.5% [3][7] - Self-storage contributed $16.8 million in earnings and $18.1 million in management fees, with a strong return on investment [3][22] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The office portfolio's occupancy is stable at 91%, with positive leasing spreads [6] - Retail portfolio saw MAT growth of 2.7% on FY 2024, with a compound annual growth rate of 6.1% since 2019 [21] - Self-storage sector shows strong occupancy at 91.2% and RevPAR growth of 4.5% year on year [22] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to identify, own, and manage real estate to deliver exceptional returns, focusing on office and retail sectors [14] - Plans to realize $200 to $300 million in non-core asset sales over the next 12 to 18 months to pursue higher returning opportunities [14] - The company is consolidating operating systems to improve efficiency and scalability [14] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted early signs of improving capital and leasing sentiment in the office and retail sectors [2] - The company anticipates a significant reduction in finance costs due to recent interest rate cuts [9] - Future earnings are forecasted at the top of the payout ratio range, contingent on successful leasing programs [9] Other Important Information - The group has received its first public credit rating of A+ with a stable outlook, allowing for competitive banking facilities [11] - Full-year valuations were impacted by a 27 basis point expansion in cap rates, resulting in an overall value decline of 4% [12] - The company is exploring capital partnering opportunities and is currently involved in due diligence regarding a proposal for its stake in ASK [25] Q&A Session Summary Question: Thoughts on recycling capital and reinvestment strategies - The company is primarily focused on the office and retail sectors for reinvestment, while remaining open to other opportunities [27] Question: Insights on office demand and tenant behavior - Office demand has been relatively healthy, with more companies returning employees to the workplace [28][29] Question: Medium-term potential of 201 Elizabeth Street for residential development - The highest and best use of 201 Elizabeth Street is currently seen as office, though residential potential is not discounted for the future [34][35] Question: Leasing prospects for 710 Collins Street - There are advanced discussions with interested groups, and the company is optimistic about generating income from this asset by the end of the financial year [36][37] Question: Anticipation of transactions in capital partnering for FY 2026 - The company intends to progress capital partnering transactions and hopes to provide updates in the near future [41]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported second quarter 2025 adjusted EPS of $0.89, consistent with the prior period's results [7][27] - Full year 2025 adjusted EPS guidance remains affirmed at $4.3 to $4.7, with 2026 EPS guidance at $4.8 to $5.3 [8] - Second quarter 2025 GAAP earnings were $461 million or $0.71 per share, compared to $713 million or $1.12 per share in the same quarter of 2024 [26] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Sempra California saw a $5 million increase primarily from higher regulatory awards and electric transmission margin, offset by lower CPUC base operating margin [28] - Sempra Texas reported $6 million of higher equity earnings due to increased invested capital and customer growth, despite higher operating and interest expenses [29] - Sempra Infrastructure experienced a $26 million increase in revenues from contract modifications and higher power volumes [29] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company is focusing on regulatory compacts in Texas, with the passage of House Bill 5247 expected to improve earned return on equity by 50 to 100 basis points over time [18] - The legislative environment in Texas is supportive of infrastructure expansion, enhancing growth opportunities for Sempra's Texas operations [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is transitioning towards a more utility-focused business model, with a capital plan targeting $13 billion in investments for 2025, primarily in U.S. utilities [8][12] - The Fit for 2025 campaign aims to improve customer affordability by reducing internal costs and enhancing productivity [13] - The company is advancing capital recycling initiatives and expects higher contributions from regulated utilities, improving overall credit and business risk profile [11][12] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving 2025 goals, citing steady execution on value creation initiatives [7] - The macroeconomic backdrop for LNG is strengthening, with growing demand in Europe and Asia expected to support Sempra's LNG assets [84][86] - The company anticipates significant growth opportunities in Texas, driven by legislative support and increasing demand for energy [17][44] Other Important Information - Sempra Infrastructure is making progress on major construction projects, including ECA LNG Phase 1 and Port Arthur LNG Phase 1, with expected revenue generation starting in 2026 [22][24] - The company has successfully hardened 100% of its transmission system in high fire threat areas, demonstrating commitment to operational excellence and safety [14] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you provide details on the KKR LOI regarding the Sempra Infrastructure Partner sale process? - Management indicated that the LOI with KKR contemplates an equity sale in the 15% to 30% range, with flexibility based on valuation [34][36] Question: What is the timing of the capital plan update related to incremental capital at Encore in Texas? - Management expects to confirm the capital plan at the board meeting in October, with updates likely in 2026 following the base rate review [40][41] Question: How does the company view the LNG market and contracting opportunities for Port Arthur? - Management maintains a bullish outlook on LNG, driven by energy security needs in Europe and growing demand in Asia [84][86] Question: What is the expected impact of the Unified Tracker Mechanism (UTM) on earned ROE? - Management anticipates a positive impact on earned ROE of about 50 to 100 basis points, with the first UTM filing expected in the first half of next year [102][104]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported second quarter 2025 adjusted EPS of $0.89, consistent with the prior period's results [6][27] - Full year 2025 adjusted EPS guidance remains affirmed at $4.3 to $4.7, with 2026 EPS guidance of $4.8 to $5.3 [6] - Second quarter 2025 GAAP earnings were $461 million or $0.71 per share, compared to $713 million or $1.12 per share in the same quarter of 2024 [26] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Sempra California saw a $5 million increase primarily from higher regulatory awards and electric transmission margin, offset by lower CPUC base operating margin [28] - Sempra Texas reported $6 million of higher equity earnings due to increased invested capital and customer growth, despite higher operating and interest expenses [29] - Sempra Infrastructure experienced a $26 million increase in revenues, mainly from a contract modification and higher power volumes [29] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company is focusing on regulatory compacts in Texas, with the recently passed House Bill 5247 expected to improve earned return on equity by 50 to 100 basis points over time [16][30] - The legislative environment in Texas is supportive of infrastructure expansion, which is critical for the company's growth strategy [15] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is transitioning towards a more utility-focused business model, with a capital plan targeting $13 billion in investments for 2025, primarily in U.S. Utilities [6][11] - The Fit for 2025 campaign aims to improve customer affordability by reducing internal costs and enhancing productivity [12] - The company is advancing its capital recycling initiatives and expects higher contributions from regulated utilities, improving overall credit and business risk profile [10][11] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving solid financial performance for the year, with ongoing progress on value creation initiatives [27][30] - The company anticipates a notable increase in earnings contributions from regulated utilities, particularly in Texas, which is expected to enhance overall value [11][30] - Management highlighted the importance of legislative developments in Texas for future growth and profitability [16][30] Other Important Information - The company has made significant investments in operational excellence and safety measures, including wildfire mitigation efforts [13] - Sempra Infrastructure is advancing multiple construction projects, including ECA LNG Phase 1 and Port Arthur LNG Phase 1, which are expected to drive cash flow growth [21][23] Q&A Session Summary Question: Inquiry about KKR LOI and stake sales - Management indicated that the LOI with KKR contemplates an equity sale in the 15% to 30% range, with flexibility based on valuation [34][36] Question: Update on capital plan and execution confidence - Management confirmed that the incremental capital opportunities at Encore are outside the current base plan, with confidence in executing the capital plan due to supportive legislative developments [38][40] Question: LNG market and contracting opportunities - Management expressed a bullish view on LNG demand driven by energy security in Europe and growing needs in Asia, positioning Gulf Coast assets favorably [85][88] Question: Timing of UTM filings and ROE improvement - Management expects the first UTM filing in the first half of next year, anticipating a low-end impact on ROE this year, with potential for higher contributions in subsequent years [102][104]

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Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net income for Q1 was 107.3 billion yen, an increase of 20.6 billion yen year on year, with an annualized ROE of 10.4% [3][6] - Pre-tax profit was 155.5 billion yen, up 35.3 billion yen from last year, indicating strong performance across all categories [4][10] - The company completed 40.9 billion yen of its 100 billion yen share buyback program announced in May [5][34] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Finance segment profit increased by 5% year on year to 49 billion yen, with solid performance in Corporate Financial Services and Banking [7][24] - Operation segment profit also rose by 5% year on year to 55.8 billion yen, driven by gains in the Environment and Energy segment [8][26] - Investment segment profit surged by 61% year on year to 60.1 billion yen, bolstered by gains from the sale of Hotel Universal Port Vita [9][10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The concession business at Kansai International Airport is experiencing growth due to increased international passenger numbers, reflecting steady performance [22] - RevPAR at hotels in the Kansai area has been improving, with new hotel openings contributing to future demand [23] - The performance of the Aircraft and Ship segment remains positive, with an increase in passenger traffic expected to drive growth [23][30] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on capital recycling and optimizing its portfolio in the renewable energy sector, including the sale of GreenCo shares and investment in AM Green [16][45] - ORIX aims to enhance corporate value by increasing direct dialogue with institutional investors and improving ROE and EPS growth [36] - The investment pipeline is robust at 2 trillion yen, with a focus on sustainable growth through immediate revenue-generating projects and longer-term developments [21] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged increasing macroeconomic uncertainty and is reviewing planned exits and performance for the second half of the fiscal year [4][35] - The outlook for the first half is strong, but management remains cautious about the overall business environment and potential impacts from tariffs and inflation [40][88] - The company plans to continue its shareholder return policy while being flexible based on full-year outlook and new investments [5][66] Other Important Information - The company has seen a significant increase in assets under management (AUM) to 81 trillion yen, driven by cash inflows and market performance [81][82] - The company is maintaining a conservative investment stance in the Greater China region due to market conditions [34] Q&A Session Summary Question: What are the risks arising from US-related businesses? - Management noted that while the direct exposure in the US is limited, the company is being conservative in its approach due to high interest rates and tariff impacts [38][40] Question: What is the outlook for capital losses and portfolio realignment? - Management indicated that the outlook is conservative, with ongoing discussions about optimal timing for capital gains and losses [48][51] Question: How will the interim dividend be decided? - The company plans to maintain a 39% payout ratio based on first-half net income, with final decisions made during interim financial closings [67][69] Question: What factors contributed to the increase in AUM? - The increase in AUM was attributed to cash inflows from successful product lineups and favorable market conditions, particularly in US equities [82][84] Question: How does the company view its investment discipline? - Management emphasized that investment decisions are made based on feasibility and market conditions, maintaining a disciplined approach despite external pressures [56][59] Question: What is the company's strategy regarding share buybacks? - The company is flexible with its buyback program and will make decisions based on market conditions and investment opportunities [66][71] Question: Can you clarify the meaning of "under review" for the fiscal year guidance? - Management clarified that "under review" means they are assessing the budget and performance forecasts to ensure they are accurate and backed by solid reasons [76][78]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net income for Q1 was 107.3 billion yen, an increase of 20.6 billion yen year on year, with an annualized ROE of 10.4% [3][6] - Pre-tax profit was 155.5 billion yen, up 35.3 billion yen from last year [4][10] - The company completed 40.9 billion yen of its 100 billion yen share buyback program announced in May [5][37] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Finance segment profit increased by 5% year on year to 49 billion yen, with a progress rate of 27% against the full year forecast [7] - Operation segment profit also rose by 5% year on year to 55.8 billion yen, with a progress rate of 24% against the full year forecast [8] - Investment segment profit surged by 61% year on year to 60.1 billion yen, driven by gains from the sale of Hotel Universal Port Vita and valuation gains on Ormat shares [9][10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The concession business at Kansai International Airport is experiencing growth due to increased international passenger numbers, reflecting steady performance [25] - RevPAR at hotels in the Kansai area has been improving, with new luxury hotel openings anticipated to drive future demand [26] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on capital recycling and optimizing its portfolio in the renewable energy sector, including the sale of GreenCo shares and investment in AM Green [17][20] - The investment pipeline is robust at 2 trillion yen, emphasizing sustainable growth through immediate revenue-generating projects and those requiring longer development periods [24] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged increasing macroeconomic uncertainty and is reviewing planned exits and full-year net income targets [4][38] - The outlook for the first half is strong, with expected gains from the sale of GreenCo and new investments [6][38] Other Important Information - The company plans to maintain a conservative investment approach due to inflation and rising construction costs [26] - The company aims to enhance corporate value by increasing direct dialogue with institutional investors and focusing on improving ROE and EPS growth [39] Q&A Session Summary Question: Concerns regarding US-related business risks due to tariffs and renewable energy incentives - Management indicated that while the direct exposure in the US is limited, they will remain flexible in managing assets and continue to invest in Hilco Global, which is countercyclical [41][48] Question: Inquiry about capital recycling and outlook for capital losses - Management stated that the capital gain budget is under review, and they are assessing the timing for potential capital losses and impairments [50][54] Question: Clarification on investment discipline and dividend payout timing - Management explained that the decision to terminate discussions with Panasonic was based on a reassessment of business feasibility, and the dividend payout was made to return capital while maintaining financial soundness [60][66] Question: Inquiry about base profit sustainability and guidance - Management confirmed that while the first quarter base profit was solid, it included some one-off profits, and they aim to maintain momentum moving forward [80][82] Question: Clarification on the meaning of "under review" for fiscal year guidance - Management clarified that "under review" means they are reassessing the budget and performance expectations, not necessarily indicating a negative outlook [84][86] Question: Inquiry about asset management growth and AUM increase - Management attributed the increase in AUM to cash inflows and improved market conditions, particularly in the US and Europe [90][93]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The second quarter RevPAR increased by 2.2% compared to last year, while total RevPAR grew by 3.7% [29] - Adjusted EBITDAre for the second quarter was $73 million, and adjusted FFO was $0.28 per diluted share [29] - The company has a net leverage of 3.5 times trailing earnings or 4.8 times including preferred equity [29] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Urban hotels led the portfolio with RevPAR growth of over 9%, driven by strong corporate group and business travel demand [7] - The Marriott Long Beach Downtown saw RevPAR increase nearly 70% due to recent investments and brand conversion [7] - The Renaissance Orlando at SeaWorld reported a year-to-date production increase of 16% in room nights and over 30% in revenue [11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company experienced mixed performance across various markets, with San Francisco showing RevPAR growth of 6.5% and total RevPAR growth of over 16% [9] - Washington DC faced challenges due to government cancellations, impacting performance negatively [10] - Wailea and Key West saw increased price sensitivity, contributing to lower than expected growth [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is taking a cautious approach to fourth quarter expectations due to heightened uncertainty and limited visibility [6] - There is a focus on capital recycling, with the sale of Hilton New Orleans St. Charles and $100 million in share repurchases planned [18] - The company aims to drive earnings growth through renovations and strategic investments in existing properties [92] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted a more cautious outlook for the remainder of the year, primarily due to continued weakness in government demand and softer leisure demand [19] - There are encouraging signs in leisure bookings in Miami and Wailea, which could lead to better-than-anticipated fourth quarter results [6] - The company expects total portfolio RevPAR growth to range from 3% to 5% compared to 2024, with adjusted EBITDAre projected between $226 million to $240 million [31][32] Other Important Information - The company has nearly $145 million in total cash and cash equivalents, equating to over $600 million in total liquidity [30] - The updated guidance reflects a more cautious expectation for the remainder of the year, particularly for Andaz Miami Beach [31] - The company has repurchased over 11 million shares this year, contributing to an estimated 6% accretion in earnings per share [34] Q&A Session Summary Question: Recent booking trends in Maui - Management noted that occupancy in Kaanapali has improved, which positively impacts Wailea's performance, leading to increased leisure bookings [40][41][44] Question: Change in outlook and EBITDA reduction - The reduction in outlook is attributed to softness in Wailea and Washington DC, along with a slower ramp-up at Andaz Miami Beach [50][54] Question: Comfortable leverage and buyback strategy - The company is comfortable with its current leverage and sees ample capacity for additional share repurchases, balancing this with other capital allocation opportunities [58][60] Question: Group business outlook for 2026 - Management indicated that DC, Miami, and New Orleans are expected to be stronger markets, with good growth anticipated in San Francisco and wine country [65][66] Question: Impact of renovations and future growth - Renovations in various properties are expected to contribute to future growth, with specific focus on improving transient bookings and group business [92][94]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q2 2025, normalized funds from operations (FFO) were $57.6 million or $0.35 per share, down from $0.45 per share in the prior year quarter [20] - Adjusted EBITDAre decreased by $7.7 million year over year to $163.8 million, primarily impacted by an $8.8 million increase in interest expense and lower hotel returns [20] - The gross operating profit margin percentage declined by 300 basis points to 30.2% [20] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Hotel level EBITDA declined during the quarter due to elevated labor costs and inflationary pressures, with a notable $2.4 million of negative EBITDA attributed to renovation disruptions [11][20] - The 84 hotels expected to be retained generated RevPAR of $121, an increase of 1.5% year over year, but adjusted hotel EBITDA decreased by $7 million or 11.7% year over year [21] - The net lease portfolio consists of 742 service-oriented retail net lease properties with annual minimum rents of $387 million, over 97% leased with a weighted average lease term of 7.6 years [16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - RevPAR increased by 40 basis points year over year, outperforming the broader industry by 90 basis points [10] - The company is on track to complete 122 hotel sales totaling nearly 16,000 keys for gross proceeds of $966 million, implying a valuation of 18.4 times hotel EBITDA of $53 million over the trailing twelve months [9][20] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is transforming towards becoming a predominantly net lease REIT, focusing on divesting select hotels while retaining full-service, urban, and leisure-oriented properties [7][13] - The strategic shift aims to create a portfolio with minimal capital expenditure needs and stable cash flows, enhancing tenant and geographic diversity [14][18] - The company plans to maintain its capital recycling and deleveraging strategy into 2026, pursuing further hotel dispositions as market conditions improve [13] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted softness in Q3, particularly in August, with expectations for a seasonal drop in leisure travel activity [28][29] - The company anticipates a sequential decline in Q3 due to seasonality and recent headwinds in the travel and lodging industries, projecting RevPAR of $98 to $101 [22] - Management expressed confidence in the pricing achieved for hotel sales, indicating strong participation in those assets [55] Other Important Information - The company fully drew down its $650 million credit facility as a precautionary measure to preserve liquidity [24] - The expected proceeds from the sale of 114 hotels will be used to repay $450 million of senior unsecured notes maturing in October 2026 [24] - Capital expenditures for 2025 are expected to be approximately $250 million, with a significant reduction to $150 million in 2026 [26] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you expand on the renovation disruption in Q3 and headwinds in travel and lodging? - Management noted softness in Q3, particularly in August, with a seasonal drop in leisure travel expected [28][29] Question: Is the $150 million CapEx for 2026 elevated compared to normal? - Management indicated that the $150 million represents a significant reduction from previous years, aiming for a long-term CapEx run rate closer to 10% to 12% of total revenues [30][31] Question: What is the status of the $900 million hotel sales? - Management confirmed that due diligence is complete, and deposits are hard, with incremental closings expected between Q3 and Q4 [48][49] Question: What is the outlook for net lease investments? - Management indicated that net lease acquisitions could ramp up post-closing of hotel dispositions, with a steady state expected based on current run rates [45][46] Question: How does the company plan to address debt maturities? - Management plans to use proceeds from asset sales and operational improvements to address upcoming debt maturities [61][62]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - CenterSpace reported a core FFO of $1.28 per diluted share for Q2 2025, driven by a 2.9% year-on-year increase in same-store NOI [16] - Same-store revenues increased by 2.7% year-on-year, with a 60 basis point increase in occupancy and a 2.1% increase in average monthly revenue per occupied home [16] - Same-store expenses rose by 2.4% year-on-year, with controllable expenses up 3.2% and non-controllable expenses up 1.2% [16] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The same-store portfolio experienced a 2.7% year-on-year revenue increase, contributing to a 2.9% growth in NOI [4] - Leasing spreads in Minneapolis increased by 2.7%, with new leases up 2.5% and renewals up 2.8% [7] - In Denver, leasing spreads remained challenged due to record supply, although there are expectations for improvement in the future [7] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The occupancy rate reached 96.1% in the quarter, supported by high retention of 60.2% [5] - The rent-to-income ratio for residents was reported at 22.5%, with same-store bad debt at approximately 40 basis points for the quarter [7] - Salt Lake City showed strong momentum with the second highest level of effective rent change among institutional markets [11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on capital recycling to improve portfolio metrics and increase exposure to institutional markets [5] - Recent acquisitions in Colorado and Utah, along with dispositions in Minnesota, are part of the strategy to enhance growth profiles [5] - The company aims to maintain best-in-class operations while driving shareholder results through continued earnings growth [8] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the operational platform's readiness for market repositioning efforts, with strong absorption rates in many markets [5] - The anticipated drop in supply in Denver, combined with expected job growth, is expected to turn current headwinds into tailwinds [7] - Management remains optimistic about the future despite macro volatility affecting stock prices [8] Other Important Information - An impairment charge of $14.5 million was booked due to the shorter holding period for properties being marketed for sale [17] - The company expanded its line of credit capacity by $150 million to facilitate recent acquisitions [19] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you talk about any guardrails around dilution to offset organic growth? - Management indicated they are monitoring the balance sheet closely and aim to continue growing earnings year over year while managing temporary upticks in leverage [22][23] Question: Do you have any July leasing stats? - Management noted that trends from June continued, with Denver showing signs of improvement, although overall leasing remains healthy [24][25] Question: How have your expectations for top-line growth changed? - Expectations for Denver have been adjusted downward, but strong performance in tertiary markets has offset this [30] Question: Can you discuss the types of buyers for the assets being sold? - There is strong buyer interest with multiple offers from both local and national capital sources [32][33] Question: What is the long-term plan for leverage? - Management aims to reduce leverage below seven times over time, ideally targeting the low fives [36][37] Question: What are the cap rates on recent acquisitions? - Recent acquisitions had cap rates in the high fours, with specific rates of 4.8% for Railway and 4.65% for Sugar Mountain [42] Question: How is the company thinking about timing of capital allocation? - Management is not racing against a clock but is focused on taking advantage of opportunities as they arise [81][82]