Sanmeet Deo: Well, prediction markets, basically, in essence, if you think of the movie Rat Race, where the rich guys are betting on anything and everything happening in the whole, like the movie, that's what prediction markets are. The recipe for the explosion was really legal, well funded, and user friendly product that lets anyone trade on, real world events, like New York City Mayor election, top artists on Spotify, the existence of aliens. Kalshi she is one of them, which became the first CFTC regulate ...

Rod, also the incoming 2026 chair of the Securities Industry and Financial Markets Association. It's great to have you back, Ron. >> It's great to be here.Great. I love coming down to the floor and I need to come down here more often. So, it's great to be here. >> It's nice to have you in the building.So, we were just talking about the environment on credit overall in terms of markets, capital markets. How you feeling. >> Look, it's a the uh the markets are are very very active, very brilliant.It's uh I'm l ...