If you're an individual contributor and you're doing [music] work, it's very nice to know that your manager is going through more pain than you. If you're a senior leader or an executive, you're 5 days. If you're a manager, [music] 4 days. If you're an IC, 3 days.I think that's also a general principle for shipping fast. It has to [music] start at the top. And you have to be willing to do yourself to an even [music] higher degree what what you ask of of everyone. ...