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PLDT(PHI) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-11 08:30
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Service revenues net of interconnection reached $145.9 billion, up 1% year on year, driven by steady demand across fiber, data, and ICT [4][6] - Cash operating expenses, subsidies, and provisions decreased by 2%, reflecting the company's focus on spending control [4][16] - EBITDA rose 3% to $82.8 billion with margins steady at 52% amidst higher revenues and lower operating expenses [4][17] - Telco core income was $5.3 billion, down 5% mainly due to higher depreciation and financing costs from network and IT investments [5][18] - Core income remained stable at $25.8 billion, supported by Maya's sustained profitability [5][19] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Fiber revenues grew 7%, reflecting solid demand for reliable connectivity [6][10] - Mobile data and fixed wireless revenues were up 1%, with fixed wireless showing strong momentum with an 18% year-on-year increase [6][15] - Corporate Data and ICT revenues grew 2%, with ICT services alone growing 27% year on year [7][13] - Home revenues grew 4% year on year, driven mainly by continued fiber demand [10][12] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The enterprise segment returned to growth in the third quarter, with corporate data and ICT up 5% year on year [9][13] - Government and public sector projects began to ramp up after election-related delays, contributing to the growth in enterprise revenues [7][13] - The number of 5G devices increased by 39% year on year, driving higher data usage and improved customer experience [15] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company continues to invest in new cell sites, LTE and 5G upgrades, home fiber ports, data center development, and submarine cables to strengthen network quality and support growth [20] - PLDT launched Filipinas AI, the country's first sovereign AI platform, to enable enterprises to build and deploy AI models locally [14][89] - The company is focused on asset monetization programs, including a potential REIT listing for its data center [71] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in sustaining positive free cash flow into 2026, supported by lower CapEx and asset monetization [22][70] - The government is expected to continue investing in digital connectivity, which is seen as a priority for future growth [46] - Management highlighted the importance of maintaining profitability amidst a competitive environment, with a focus on disciplined growth [17][18] Other Important Information - Maya's net income for the third quarter was $532 million, with significant growth in deposits and loans [24][25] - The company recorded a $1.1 billion in proceeds from tower sales and completed a $20.5 billion final dividend payment for 2024 [22] Q&A Session Summary Question: What were the main drivers for the drop in Maya's net income for the period? - The drop was attributed to the removal of gaming links and the launch of new credit products, which will have some provision impact in the near term [33][34] Question: How do you see the KPA and IRRs impacting profitability and investment profile? - The law aims for cheaper internet and wider coverage, but lacks obligations for new entrants to build infrastructure, raising concerns about its effectiveness [36][54] Question: What is driving the difference in performance in the mobile segment? - Smart Wireless Group achieved flattish growth year to date, with improved ARPU due to targeted customer acquisition strategies [39][40] Question: Are you seeing sustained uptick in government projects into the fourth quarter? - Continued demand from government agencies is expected, with investments in digital connectivity prioritized [42][46] Question: What is the status of the asset monetization programs? - The company is in talks for a 49% stake sale in its data center and exploring a REIT listing [71][92]
Lesaka(LSAK) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-08 13:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported revenue of ZAR 2.5 billion, net revenue of ZAR 1.36 billion, and group adjusted EBITDA of ZAR 237 million, achieving guidance across all metrics for the quarter [10][11] - Fundamental earnings grew 98% year on year to ZAR 58 million, translating to ZAR 0.72 per share, an increase of 60% [10][13] - Net revenue increased 42% year on year, primarily driven by the inclusion of Adumo and a 32% increase in the consumer segment [12][11] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Consumer division had a standout quarter with record transactional account enrollments, lending, and insurance originations, resulting in a revenue growth of 32% year on year to ZAR 446 million [5][39] - The Merchant division's net revenue was up 58% to ZAR 782 million, with segment adjusted EBITDA increasing 7% to ZAR 150 million [27] - The Enterprise division reported an EBITDA of ZAR 2 million, down from ZAR 14 million last year, due to restructuring costs and exiting certain hardware businesses [42][45] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company serves 1.9 million consumers monthly, with a market share of 13% among permanent SASSA grant recipients [30][32] - The merchant acquiring offering now has over 81,000 points of presence, with throughput on devices growing to CAD 9.9 billion for the quarter [22] - The prepaid solutions throughput increased 4% year on year to ZAR 5.3 billion, while supplier enabled payments grew 57% year on year [25][26] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on building a multiproduct fintech platform organized around customer needs, with M&A being a key part of the strategy [6][5] - The integration of Recharger is expected to significantly contribute to the Enterprise division and enhance the electricity vending business [44][48] - The company aims to optimize capital allocation towards areas with significant growth potential while downscaling less attractive market opportunities [7][11] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the continued momentum of the Consumer division into FY 2026, with expectations of sustained growth in both customer base and ARPU [53][60] - The company anticipates a revenue guidance of ZAR 10 billion to ZAR 11 billion for FY 2025, with a net revenue increase of 42% year on year [51][52] - The Enterprise division is expected to become a material contributor to EBITDA in the coming years, with significant investments being made [42][70] Other Important Information - The company launched an employee share ownership plan, aligning employee interests with the company's success [10] - A net loss of ZAR 311 million was recorded from the noncore investment in MobiKwik, impacting overall financial results [9] Q&A Session Summary Question: Comment on your market share gains in this business. Has this continued into April and May? - Management noted significant investments have led to a 70% year-on-year growth in the customer base, with record sales in recent months indicating continued market share gains [59] Question: How deep could the endpoint for penetration end up? - Management believes there is potential to grow insurance penetration rates into the 40s and expand beyond the current customer base [62] Question: Insights on the merchant market growth and current slower growth in key contributors? - Management clarified that net revenue is growing at market rates, with confidence in restoring growth rates in the prepaid space back to mid-teen levels [64][66] Question: Contribution of the Enterprise division to group adjusted EBITDA? - Management indicated that FY 2025 was a year of rebuild for the Enterprise division, with expectations for a meaningful contribution to EBITDA in FY 2026 [68][70] Question: Thoughts on capital allocation regarding cash vaults? - Management emphasized that cash vaults are part of a holistic offering to merchants, facilitating a transition to more profitable services [71][73] Question: Margin evolution within the group per division? - Management expects the Consumer division's margin to exceed 30% over time, with similar expectations for the Merchant division, aiming for a group margin of around 30% in the medium term [74][76]
Lesaka(LSAK) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-05-08 13:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported revenue of ZAR 2.5 billion, net revenue of ZAR 1.36 billion, and group adjusted EBITDA of ZAR 237 million, achieving guidance across all metrics for the quarter [9][10] - Fundamental earnings grew 98% year on year to ZAR 58 million, translating to ZAR 0.72 per share, an increase of 60% [11][12] - Net revenue increased 42% year on year, primarily driven by the inclusion of Adumo and a 32% increase in the consumer segment [11][12] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Consumer division had record transactional account enrollments, lending, and insurance originations, contributing to a 32% revenue growth year on year to ZAR 446 million [38] - The Merchant division's net revenue was up 58% to CAD 782 million, with segment adjusted EBITDA increasing 7% to CAD 150 million [28][29] - The Enterprise division reported an EBITDA of ZAR 2 million, down from ZAR 14 million last year, due to restructuring costs and exiting certain hardware businesses [41][66] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company serves 1.9 million consumers monthly, with a market share of 13% among permanent SASSA grant recipients [32] - The merchant acquiring offering now has over 81,000 points of presence, with throughput on devices growing to CAD 9.9 billion for the quarter [22] - The prepaid solutions throughput increased 4% year on year to ZAR 5.3 billion, while supplier enabled payments grew 57% year on year [25][26] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on building a multiproduct fintech platform and has made acquisitions like Recharger to enhance its offerings [6][8] - The strategy includes optimizing capital allocation towards high-growth areas while downscaling less attractive market opportunities [7] - The company aims to achieve a net debt to group adjusted EBITDA ratio of 2x in the medium term, indicating a focus on financial stability [15] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the continued momentum of the Consumer division and expects strong growth in FY 2026 [51] - The company anticipates a revenue guidance of ZAR 10 billion to ZAR 11 billion for FY 2025, with a net revenue increase of 42% year on year [49] - The Enterprise division is expected to become a material contributor to EBITDA, with significant investments being made in technology and new products [42][66] Other Important Information - The company launched an employee share ownership plan, aligning employee interests with company success [9] - The acquisition of MobiKwik resulted in a net loss of ZAR 311 million, impacting overall financial results for the quarter [8] - The company completed a debt refinance, reducing the weighted average cost of debt from approximately 12% to 10.7% per annum [16] Q&A Session Summary Question: Comment on your market share gains in this business. Has this continued into April and May? - Management noted a significant increase in customer base and market share, with record sales in recent months indicating continued growth [57] Question: How deep could the endpoint for penetration end up? - Management believes there is potential to grow insurance product penetration into the 40s and expand beyond the current customer base [59] Question: Can you give insight on why card acquiring and ADP appear to be growing slower than the market? - Management clarified that net revenue is growing at market rates and expects to restore growth in the prepaid space back to mid-teen levels [61][64] Question: What has caused the deterioration of the Enterprise division's contribution to revenue and EBITDA? - The Enterprise division faced challenges due to the closure of legacy businesses but is expected to contribute positively in FY 2026 [66] Question: How do you think about capital allocation in the context of cash vaults? - Management emphasized that cash vaults are part of a holistic offering to merchants, facilitating a transition to more profitable services [68][71] Question: How should we think about margin evolution within your group per division? - Management expects the Consumer division's margin to exceed 30% over time, with similar expectations for the Merchant division [72][74]