How do you respond to the broad criticism which I'm sure you hear lobbed at Kawhi a lot and not just you your competitors too that it's the casinoification of everything that you're essentially allowing for more risk. >> I'm glad that you asked this question because the perpetuals we offer we should actually have a different name for it. We should call it regulated perpetuals.What we are offering we are not innovating in risk management. Whatever we are offering perpetuals onshore follow the exact same rout ...