Lifetime Brands(LCUT) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 20:33
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported a 6% increase in net sales for Q4 2024, reaching $215 million compared to $203 million in the same period last year [7][39] - Gross margin expanded by 130 basis points to 37.7% from 36.4% year-over-year [41] - Net income for Q4 2024 was $8.9 million or $0.41 per diluted share, up from $2.7 million or $0.13 per diluted share in Q4 2023 [38] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - US segment sales increased by 5.8% to $196 million, driven by strong online sales and seasonal demand [39] - International segment sales rose by 7.2% to $19.2 million, supported by e-commerce growth and new regional brand launches [40][16] - E-commerce sales accounted for 24% of total sales in Q4, with US e-commerce sales growing by 10% year-over-year [10][11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company experienced a decline in the mass channel, particularly affecting KitchenAid products, which impacted overall performance [51] - The international business showed positive momentum in Europe and Asia Pacific, although UK markets remained soft [19][20] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on organic growth through the Dolly Parton program, which is expected to generate $4 million in incremental sales in Q1 2025 [13][15] - Project Concorde was launched to accelerate international business profitability and streamline operations [33][34] - The company is actively pursuing M&A opportunities in new product adjacencies and food services, with a focus on maintaining financial discipline [23][24] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged a cautious consumer environment due to macroeconomic factors and inflation but expressed confidence in the resilience of the business model [12] - The company expects to achieve breakeven in the international segment by 2026, with significant improvements anticipated in 2025 [58][60] - Management highlighted the importance of adapting to tariff changes and reducing dependency on China-sourced products [30][64] Other Important Information - The company announced a strategic relocation of its East Coast distribution center to Maryland, which is expected to enhance operational efficiency [25][28] - The effective tax rate for the full year 2024 was reported at 75.5%, influenced by foreign losses and local income taxes [44] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you provide more detail about the mass channel softness? - Management noted a loss of market share in the KitchenAid side, which affected performance, but they expect to rebound [51] Question: What is the update on your exposure to China regarding tariffs? - The company is working to reduce its production dependency on China, aiming to move the majority of production out by the end of 2025 [55][64] Question: What is the expected operating loss for the international segment? - The EBITDA loss for the international segment was just under $10 million, with a goal to reach breakeven by 2026 [59][58] Question: Can you quantify your tariff exposure? - The company is looking to reduce its production in China from 75% to below 50% by the end of the year [64] Question: What brands performed well last year? - Brands like Makasa and Farberware saw growth, while Taylor and False Graph experienced declines, with plans to revitalize the lagging brands [72][74]
Brilliant Earth (BRLT) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 20:32
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Q4 net sales were $119.5 million, representing a 4% decline year-over-year, while full-year net sales reached $422.2 million, a 5% decline year-over-year [7][30] - Total orders grew by 10% year-over-year in Q4 and 7% year-over-year for the full year, with repeat orders increasing by 18% in Q4 and 17% for the full year [8][30] - Gross margin expanded by 90 basis points year-over-year in Q4 to 59.6%, and for the full year, it was 60.3%, a 270 basis point increase [9][32] - Adjusted EBITDA for Q4 was $6.9 million, with a 5.8% margin, significantly exceeding guidance, while full-year adjusted EBITDA was $21.1 million, or a 5% margin [11][33] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Engagement rings showed improved year-over-year unit comps in Q4, with strong performance in price ranges under $5,000 [13][14] - The fine jewelry segment recorded strong double-digit bookings growth in Q4, contributing 27% of total bookings, a 600 basis point increase year-over-year [17][21] - The company launched the Flawless Collection, which has performed strongly, indicating customer trust in the brand [15] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company opened new showroom locations in New York City and Boston, enhancing its physical presence and customer engagement [20] - The fine jewelry assortment saw significant growth, particularly during the holiday season, indicating strong consumer demand [18][21] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to drive sustainable long-term growth by enhancing the omnichannel experience, offering premium products, and investing in brand amplification [23][24] - Plans for 2025 include expanding showroom locations and continuing to innovate in product design and marketing strategies [24][25] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the future, citing strong repeat order growth and effective marketing strategies [22][23] - The company anticipates a slight decline in Q1 net sales year-over-year but expects overall growth for the full year [26][27] Other Important Information - The company ended Q4 with approximately $162 million in cash, reflecting a year-over-year increase, and a net cash position of approximately $106 million [39][40] - The company plans to continue stock repurchases strategically while balancing overall investment decisions [41][42] Q&A Session Summary Question: Gross margin guidance for 2025 - Management expects a high-50s gross margin for 2025, driven by brand strength and procurement efficiencies [48][49] Question: Strategies for driving repeat orders and attracting new customers - The company focuses on strong customer experience and compelling product assortments to drive repeat orders, while also optimizing marketing spend to attract new customers [51][56] Question: Engagement trends and average order value - Management noted improvements in engagement ring trends and expects average order value to moderate due to growth in fine jewelry, which typically has a lower average order value [63][67] Question: Margin profile of physical showroom rollouts - The company is strategically investing in physical locations while maintaining a strong digital presence, focusing on exceptional customer experiences [71][72] Question: Demographic shifts and attachment rates between fine jewelry and engagement - Management indicated that they have not seen significant demographic shifts but are pleased with the repeat purchases in fine jewelry, which contribute to overall growth [92][94] Question: Cadence of sales growth and operating profile - The company expects back-half weighted growth for the year, driven by showroom growth and favorable comparisons to previous quarters [98][99]
Apyx Medical(APYX) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 20:14
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total revenue for Q4 2024 was $14.2 million, a decrease of 3% compared to $14.7 million in Q4 2023 [7][23] - Gross profit for Q4 2024 increased to $9 million, with a gross profit margin of 63.0%, up from 60.9% in the prior year [25] - Net loss attributable to stockholders was $4.6 million or $0.12 per share for Q4 2024, compared to a net loss of $9.6 million or $0.28 per share in Q4 2023 [28] Business Segment Data and Key Metrics Changes - Advanced Energy segment revenue was flat at approximately $12.1 million, with a 30% increase compared to Q3 2024 [8][24] - OEM segment sales decreased by 16% to approximately $1.6 million in Q4 2024 compared to Q4 2023 [24] - Domestic revenue increased by 1% year-over-year to $10.6 million, while international revenue decreased by 8% to $3.7 million [25] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The aesthetic market has faced challenges due to the macroeconomic environment and the adoption of GLP-1 drugs, which have diverted discretionary spending [9][10] - The company believes that patients who have lost weight due to GLP-1 drugs will seek surgical solutions, positioning the Renuvion system favorably [11][12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on the launch of the AYON Body Contouring System, expected in the second half of 2025, which integrates multiple surgical technologies [16][18] - Apyx Medical aims to capitalize on the growing demand for surgical aesthetics, particularly for patients experiencing skin laxity after significant weight loss [12][60] - A restructuring program was implemented to reduce U.S. workforce by nearly 25%, aiming for annualized cost savings of approximately $4.3 million [20][21] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the momentum in the Advanced Energy segment and the potential for growth in 2025 [8][9] - The company anticipates total revenue for 2025 to be in the range of $47.6 million to $49.0 million, reflecting a slight increase from 2024 [30] - Management noted that the aesthetic space is experiencing disruption due to the impact of GLP-1 drugs, which could benefit companies with the right technologies [62] Other Important Information - The company completed a registered direct offering with net proceeds of approximately $6.8 million to strengthen its balance sheet [21] - Cash and cash equivalents as of December 31, 2024, were $31.7 million, down from $43.7 million a year earlier [29] Q&A Session Summary Question: Confirmation of gross margin for 2025 - Management confirmed that they expect gross margins to be around 60% for 2025 [34][35] Question: Timing and revenue expectations for AYON - Management indicated that the guidance for AYON has not been updated despite the earlier submission for FDA approval, and revenue expectations remain conservative [40][41] Question: Changes in direct-to-consumer campaign and future outlook - Management highlighted the success of the DTC campaign and the importance of addressing the needs of patients experiencing skin laxity due to weight loss [50][52] Question: Domestic vs. international market performance - Management noted that the U.S. market is performing better due to early adoption of GLP-1 drugs, with expectations for similar trends internationally [56][58] Question: Adoption of GLP-1s and utilization of Renuvion - Management reported growth in handpiece sales in the U.S. and noted that surgical practices are adapting to treat patients with skin laxity effectively [66][70] Question: Upgrades for the Apyx One Console - Management stated that there is still a significant number of customers who need to upgrade to the Apyx One Console before AYON's launch [72][75]
Ellington Residential Mortgage REIT(EARN) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 20:04
Ellington Credit Company (NYSE:EARN) Q4 2024 Earnings Conference Call March 13, 2025 11:00 AM ET Company Participants Alaael-Deen Shilleh - Associate General Counsel and Secretary Laurence E. Penn - Chief Executive Officer and President Mark Tecotzky - Co-Chief Investment Officer Christopher Smernoff - Chief Financial Officer Gregory Borenstein - Head of Corporate Credit at Ellington Management Group Conference Call Participants Douglas Harter - UBS Matthew Erdner - JonesTrading Operator Good morning, ladie ...
Ampco-Pittsburgh(AP) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 19:55
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Ampco-Pittsburgh Corporation reported earnings per common share of $0.16 for Q4 2024 and $0.02 for the full year [7] - Net cash flow from operating activities was $7.5 million for Q4 and $18 million for 2024 [8] - Consolidated net sales for Q4 2024 were $100.9 million, a decline of 6.6% compared to Q4 2023 [28] - Net income attributable to Ampco-Pittsburgh for Q4 2024 was $3.1 million, compared to a net loss of $41.8 million in Q4 2023 [35] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Air and Liquid Processing segment achieved record sales for 2024, improving 11% from the prior year [9] - The Forged and Cast Engineered Products segment reported total net sales of $66.5 million in Q4 2024, down from $75.8 million in Q4 2023 [20] - Operating income for the Forged and Cast Engineered Products segment reached $10.5 million for the full year 2024, up from $7.6 million in 2023 [22] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - North America and Europe remained stable markets, with Europe experiencing market softness [23] - The company anticipates increased demand in the U.S. due to potential tariffs, slightly offset by lower demand in Mexico and stable demand in Europe [24] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on turning Air and Liquid into a growth-oriented business, with revenue 56% higher than three years ago [18] - A formal collective consultation process has been initiated for the UK plant to address ongoing losses [10][45] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that the UK plant has faced significant losses and a sustainable path forward is uncertain without intervention [44] - The U.S. Navy's expansion plans and activity in the nuclear market are expected to drive future growth opportunities [51] Other Important Information - The total backlog at December 31, 2024, was $378.9 million, flat compared to December 31, 2023 [36] - Capital expenditures for full-year 2024 were $12.2 million, including final capitalization of the U.S. Forged plant modernization [38] Q&A Session Summary Question: Clarification on the UK situation and potential plant closure - Management indicated that significant losses have occurred in the UK, and without intervention, a sustainable path forward is not visible. The collective consultation process may lead to various outcomes, including potential closure [44][46] Question: Potential for market expansion in the air and liquid division - Management noted that there is increased activity in current markets, particularly with the U.S. Navy and nuclear sector, and opportunities for expansion beyond North America [51] Question: Debt levels and future CapEx plans - Management stated that debt levels are flat year-over-year, and future CapEx is expected to remain stable, supported by government grants [52][94] Question: Year-end backlog by business segment - The total backlog was reported as flat at $379 million, with $250.5 million in Forged and Cast Engineered Products and $128.4 million in Air and Liquid Processing [68] Question: Asbestos-related revaluations frequency - Management indicated that asbestos-related revaluations will likely be conducted annually moving forward to stay on top of changes [70]
Acacia(ACTG) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 19:52
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For Q4 2024, consolidated revenue was $48.8 million, with total company adjusted EBITDA of $4.9 million and operated segment adjusted EBITDA of $9.6 million [14][29] - For the full year 2024, consolidated revenue was $122.3 million, down from $125.1 million in 2023, with total company adjusted EBITDA of $17 million [36][40] - The net loss for Q4 2024 was $13.4 million, or $0.14 per share, compared to a net income of $74.8 million, or $0.75 per share in Q4 2023 [34][36] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Energy operations generated $17.3 million in revenue for Q4 2024, significantly up from $0.8 million in the same quarter last year [29] - Manufacturing operations, following the acquisition of Deflecto, generated $23.2 million in revenue for Q4 2024 [30] - Industrial operations generated $8.2 million in revenue for Q4 2024, a slight decrease from $8.6 million in the same quarter last year [30] - Intellectual property operations generated $0.1 million in licensing revenue during Q4 2024, down from $82.8 million in the same quarter last year [30][26] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The energy vertical reported Benchmark's highest ever revenue this quarter, demonstrating effective operational strategies [19] - The manufacturing operations are expected to improve earnings leverage as market conditions rebound [24] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maximize value through disciplined capital allocation and strategic acquisitions, focusing on operational efficiencies and integration of acquired businesses [9][45] - The strategy includes evaluating potential acquisition targets in both private and public markets while maintaining a strong balance sheet [46][47] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in navigating macroeconomic uncertainties and highlighted the stability offered by the company's diversified asset base [47] - The company plans to continue optimizing existing assets and exploring new acquisition opportunities to unlock shareholder value [48] Other Important Information - The company repurchased $20 million of stock at an average price of $4.61 per share, reflecting a strategic use of shareholder capital [16] - Cash, cash equivalents, and equity securities totaled $297 million at year-end 2024, down from $403.2 million at the end of 2023, primarily due to acquisitions and stock repurchases [41][42] Q&A Session Summary Question: Thoughts on the overall economy and tariffs - Management indicated that the company is insulated from tariffs due to its market position and has plans to adjust manufacturing operations if necessary [52][54] Question: Acquisition of more wells and Cherokee play potential - Management confirmed ongoing evaluation of asset packages for acquisition, focusing on operational scalability rather than geographical expansion [61][64] Question: Deflecto's gross margin performance - Management acknowledged that the fourth quarter is seasonally weak but remains committed to achieving the targeted gross margin of 15% [66] Question: Cash levels and acquisition strategy - Management clarified that the increase in cash levels is due to effective cash flow generation from acquired businesses [92] Question: Flexibility in private equity pricing - Management noted that while private equity firms typically seek high prices, there are opportunities for reasonable valuations, especially for businesses that may not fit traditional private equity models [96][97]
Aveanna Healthcare(AVAH) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 19:37
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenue for Q4 2024 was approximately $520 million, representing an 8.6% increase over the prior year period [8] - Full year 2024 revenue was approximately $2.024 billion, a 6.8% increase over the prior year [9] - Adjusted EBITDA for Q4 was $55.2 million, a 42.6% increase year-over-year, primarily due to improved payer rates and cost reduction efforts [8][9] - Full year 2024 adjusted EBITDA was $183.5 million, a 31.8% increase over the prior year [9] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Private Duty Services (PDS) revenue for Q4 was approximately $422.2 million, a 10.1% increase, driven by a volume increase of 4% [28][29] - Home Health and Hospice segment revenue for Q4 was approximately $54.4 million, a 0.6% increase, with 76% of admissions being episodic [33][35] - Medical Solutions segment revenue for Q4 was $43.3 million, a 4.8% increase, with revenue per unique patient served at approximately $486, up 5.9% [36] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Preferred payer agreements accounted for approximately 50% of total PDS Managed Care Organization (MCO) volumes, up from 47% in Q3 [16] - The company secured twelve private duty services state rate increases for the full year 2024, with significant improvements in Georgia and Massachusetts [13] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company continues to execute its strategic transformation strategy focused on preferred payers and obtaining adequate rates from government partners [9][11] - Five primary strategic initiatives for 2025 include enhancing partnerships with government partners, identifying cost efficiencies, modernizing the medical solutions business, managing capital structure, and engaging employees [22][24] - The company anticipates a 2025 revenue range of $2.1 billion to $2.12 billion and an adjusted EBITDA range of $190 million [24] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that the demand for home and community-based care remains strong, with ongoing efforts to address labor market challenges [10][11] - The company is optimistic about returning to a normalized growth rate in its business segments, supported by improved caregiver hiring and retention trends [12] - Management expressed confidence in achieving their strategic goals and highlighted the importance of aligning clinical capacity with preferred payers [19][21] Other Important Information - The company had liquidity of approximately $260 million at the end of Q4, with cash on hand of approximately $84 million [40] - The company expects to see continued cash flow benefits as top-line growth and cost management initiatives come to fruition in 2025 [43] Q&A Session Summary Question: Guidance on top-line growth and EBITDA margins - Management characterized their guidance as prudent, expecting continued momentum in 2025 with significant transformation [50][52] Question: M&A pipeline and focus areas - The company is focused on tuck-in M&A in home health and private duty services, with plans to remain within their capital structure [56][58] Question: PDS segment rate growth and gross margin progression - Management indicated confidence in PDS growth rates, with expectations for a return to a $10 to $10.50 spread per hour [62][66] Question: Medical solutions payer strategy and contract conversions - The company is aligning clinical capacity with preferred payers to improve clinical outcomes and cash collections [78][80] Question: Medicaid regulatory changes and policy discussions - Management expressed optimism about being a cost saver for government programs and maintaining strong dialogue with regulatory counterparts [88][90] Question: Revenue guidance for PDS revenue growth - Management expects 3% to 5% total revenue growth in the PDS segment, with a focus on increasing preferred payer agreements [108][110]
BGSF(BGSF) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 19:30
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Fourth quarter revenue was $64.4 million, down from $73.6 million in Q4 2023, reflecting a decline in both segments [17] - Professional segment revenue declined 8.7% year-over-year and 3% sequentially, but grew 2% sequentially on a billing day adjusted basis [17] - Gross profit was $21.5 million in Q4 with a margin of 33.3%, compared to 34.6% in the prior year, attributed to increased competition and economic pressures [19] - Adjusted EBITDA was $1.4 million or 2.2% of revenue, down from $3.4 million or 4.8% in Q3 [20] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In the Professional segment, monthly IT contract revenue normalized for billing days reached its lowest point in June 2024, but has since stabilized or grown sequentially [12] - The Property Management segment saw a significant restructuring, with revenue trends expected to improve starting mid-2025, despite current challenges in the multifamily housing sector [14][15] - A 23% increase in revenue was driven by territory mapping initiatives in key markets [15] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The broader multifamily housing sector is facing challenges due to rising operating expenses and credit issues, impacting the Property Management segment [14] - Increased customer engagement and a 30% rise in signed master service agreements compared to Q4 2023 indicate a growing opportunity pipeline [13] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company announced a restructuring plan aimed at reducing costs and improving operational performance, expecting cash savings of approximately $7 million to $9 million in 2025 [9] - Investments in technology, partnerships, and people are expected to drive long-term value creation, with a focus on enhancing profitability in 2025 [24] - The company is leveraging AI capabilities through the Arroyo team to address client needs and improve service delivery [40][41] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed cautious optimism regarding the second half of 2025, with expectations for improvement in property management revenue trends [32] - The economic and political uncertainties have created a more cautious environment, but management remains committed to providing updates on strategic alternatives [11][25] Other Important Information - The company has been recognized as one of the best places for working parents for five consecutive years [8] - A new lead generation engine launched in Q3 generated $2 million in revenue for the property management team [22] Q&A Session Summary Question: What type of cadence could be expected in terms of seeing restructuring on the SG&A line? - Management indicated that the majority of cuts took place in December and will start showing up in Q1 results, with further reductions throughout the year [28] Question: How is the process going with relocating operations to Arroyo? - Management expressed pride in the Arroyo team's capabilities and ongoing efforts to streamline costs [30] Question: What improvements are expected in the second half of the year for property management? - Management noted hopeful conversations within the National Apartment Association regarding potential improvements [32] Question: How is client feedback on professional services and new logos? - Management reported increased activity in the pipeline and optimism following recent elections, with more scope meetings occurring [35] Question: How will the $7 million to $9 million annual savings be realized? - The majority of cost savings were personnel-related and will be reflected in Q1, with further changes in commission plans expected in Q2 [48] Question: What percentage of the footprint is utilizing territory mapping? - Management confirmed that territory mapping has been launched in key markets like Houston and Atlanta, with plans for further expansion [54]
CSN(SID) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 19:30
Companhia Sider??rgica Nacional (NYSE:SID) Q4 2024 Earnings Conference Call March 13, 2025 10:30 AM ET Company Participants Marco Rabello - CFO and IRO Helena Guerra - ESG and Sustainability Director Benjamin Steinbruch - President, Executive Board, Chairman and CEO Edvaldo Rabelo - Director, Cement Business Luis Martinez - Executive Director, Commercial and Logistics Area & Member of Executive Board Conference Call Participants Caio Ribeiro - Bank of America Rafael Barcellos - Bradesco BBI Daniel Sasson - ...
Altisource Portfolio Solutions S.A.(ASPS) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-03-13 19:29
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - For 2024, the company generated $150 million in service revenue, a 10% increase over 2023, driven by growth in both business segments [8][10] - Adjusted EBITDA for 2024 was $17.4 million, representing an $18.3 million improvement over 2023 [8][10] - The company reduced its debt by over $60 million, from $233 million to $172.5 million, significantly strengthening its balance sheet [12][14] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Servicer and Real Estate segment reported service revenue of $120 million, an 11% increase from 2023, with adjusted EBITDA of $42.1 million, up $5 million or 14% [17][18] - The Origination segment achieved service revenue of $30.4 million, a 6% increase from 2023, with adjusted EBITDA improving by $5.4 million to $2.5 million [20][21] - The Corporate segment's adjusted EBITDA loss decreased by $7.9 million or 22% to $27.2 million, reflecting efficiency initiatives [22] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Foreclosure starts in 2024 were 35% lower than 2019 levels, and foreclosure sales were 53% lower than 2019 levels, indicating a challenging market environment [23] - The origination market faced difficulties, with 2024 mortgage origination volume 35% lower than 2019 levels, primarily due to higher interest rates [24] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to diversify its revenue base and ramp up business won while maintaining cost discipline and significantly reducing corporate interest expense [28] - Focus areas for growth include the renovation business, Lenders One solutions, and expanding the Hubzu platform to include commercial auctions [38][40] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism for 2025, forecasting service revenue between $165 million and $185 million, representing 16% annual growth, and adjusted EBITDA of $18 million to $23 million [26][27] - The company anticipates positive operating cash flow for the first time since 2019, driven by sales wins and improved margins [26][27] Other Important Information - The company completed a significant transaction with lenders in February 2025, which is expected to be accretive to pre-transaction shareholders in the medium to long term [16][28] - The interest rate on the new term loan and super senior credit facility is SOFR plus 650 basis points, resulting in a substantial reduction in annual cash interest costs [12][13] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you comment on the nature of some of the wins you've had across originations and servicing? - Management highlighted successful initiatives in the construction renovation and Lenders One businesses, with both achieving over $1 million a month in revenue [34][35] Question: How are things trending thus far in 2025? - Management reported a strong start to 2025, with January revenue and EBITDA results aligning with plans, and February revenue also on target [42][43] Question: When do you think the increase in foreclosure starts will be reflected in results? - Management noted that while they are being conservative in forecasting, anecdotal evidence suggests clients expect an increase in foreclosure starts [48][50] Question: Are there other agencies implementing unfriendly creditor policies that might impact the business? - Management mentioned the FHA's new programs and indicated that borrowers are continuing to default on modified loans, which could lead to increased business in the future [54][56] Question: Will there be a sizable gain in Q1 that could reduce the negative equity position on the balance sheet? - Management confirmed that interest expense will decrease significantly, and they expect strong revenue and EBITDA results in Q1 [60][62]