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Thomson Reuters(TRI) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-04 15:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total company organic revenues rose by 7%, with the big three segments growing by 9% [4][8] - Adjusted EBITDA increased by 10% to $672 million, reflecting a margin increase of 240 basis points to 37.7% [8][20] - Adjusted EPS was $0.85 for the quarter, compared to $0.80 in the prior year period [20] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Legal organic revenue grew by 9%, improving from 8% in the first half of 2025 [8][18] - Corporate segment organic revenues grew by 9%, with recurring revenue also increasing by 9% [18] - Tax and accounting organic revenues grew by 10%, driven by Latin American and U.S. businesses [18][19] - Reuters News organic revenues rose by 3%, primarily from growth in the agency business [19] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Global print organic revenues declined by 4% year on year [9][19] - The percentage of annualized contract value from GenAI-enabled products increased to 24%, up from 22% last quarter [19] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is reaffirming its full-year 2025 revenue and profit outlook, expecting approximately 9% organic revenue growth for the big three segments [4][21] - The company is focused on leveraging AI and technology to enhance product offerings and operational efficiency [7][16] - The competitive dynamics for core content-enabled technology offerings remain stable, with incremental competition in the AI assistance space [7][58] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted temporary factors affecting revenue growth, including slower commercial print volumes and recent U.S. federal government cancellations [4][21] - The company remains confident in achieving its 9% organic revenue growth outlook for the year, driven by strong innovation-led momentum [21][24] - Looking ahead, the company expects organic revenue growth of approximately 7% in Q4, with legal professionals likely to deliver 9% organic revenue growth [21][24] Other Important Information - The company completed a $1 billion share repurchase program and remains well-capitalized with a net leverage of only 0.6 times [7][8] - The company is committed to a balanced capital allocation approach and is assessing additional inorganic opportunities [8] Q&A Session Summary Question: What is the outlook for government and corporate headwinds? - Management acknowledged temporary sales softness in corporates but remains confident in the long-term growth potential, targeting 9%-11% organic growth for next year [31][32] Question: How is customer reaction to Agentic AI? - Customer feedback on Agentic AI products has been very positive, with significant changes in user behavior noted [36][38] Question: What is the impact of the government shutdown on contracts? - Cancellations occurred prior to the shutdown, which has minimal impact on revenue [43] Question: How does the company view competition in the AI assistance space? - The company sees new entrants in the AI assistance space as a white space opportunity and is confident in its competitive position [58] Question: What are the expectations for tax and accounting business growth? - Management remains confident in delivering 11%-13% organic growth for the tax and accounting segment in 2026 [60][62] Question: What is the company's approach to pricing strategy? - The company aims to price based on the value provided by its AI products, with a focus on maintaining competitive pricing [83][86] Question: What is the outlook for capital allocation and share buybacks? - The company maintains a framework for capital allocation but is willing to step up buybacks when opportunities arise [99][100]
Thomson Reuters(TRI) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-04 15:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total company organic revenues rose 7%, with the big three segments growing by 9% [4][8] - Adjusted EBITDA increased 10% to $672 million, reflecting a 240 basis point margin increase to 37.7% [8][19] - Adjusted EPS was $0.85 for the quarter, compared to $0.80 in the prior year period [19] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Legal organic revenue grew 9%, improving from 8% in the first half of 2025 [5][17] - Corporate segment organic revenues grew 9%, with recurring revenue growing 9% and transactional revenue rising 5% [17] - Tax and accounting organic revenues grew 10%, driven by Latin American and U.S. businesses [9][17] - Reuters News organic revenues rose 3%, primarily from growth in the agency business [9][18] - Global print organic revenues declined 4% year on year [9][18] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The percentage of annualized contract value from GenAI-enabled products increased to 24%, up from 22% last quarter [18] - The company expects organic revenue growth of approximately 7% in Q4, including about 9% for the big three segments [23] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on leveraging AI and technology to enhance product offerings and improve operational efficiency [6][16] - A balanced capital allocation approach is maintained, with a commitment to assess additional inorganic opportunities [7][46] - The company aims to achieve approximately 9% organic revenue growth for the big three segments in 2025, despite some temporary headwinds [20][23] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management remains confident in the long-term growth potential of the corporate segment, despite recent sales softness [26][28] - The company anticipates a positive margin expansion and higher free cash flow outlook for 2026 [24][55] - Management highlighted the importance of their proprietary content and editorial expertise in maintaining a competitive edge in the AI landscape [10][15] Other Important Information - The company completed a $1 billion share repurchase program, acquiring approximately 6 million shares [19][20] - The company is committed to investing over $200 million in AI and technology in 2025, continuing into 2026 [54][55] Q&A Session Summary Question: What are the recurring impacts of government and corporate headwinds into next year? - Management expressed confidence in achieving the 9%-11% organic revenue growth target for corporates next year, despite temporary sales softness [26][28] Question: How is customer reaction to Agentic AI products? - Customers have responded positively to Westlaw Advantage and Co-Counsel, with significant changes in their research behaviors noted [30][31] Question: What is the impact of the government shutdown on contracts? - Cancellations occurred prior to the shutdown, which has minimal impact on monthly and quarterly revenue [32] Question: How does the company view competition in the AI assistance space? - The company sees new entrants in the AI assistance space as a growth opportunity, with Co-Counsel positioned well in the market [39][40] Question: What is the pricing strategy in light of AI product value? - The company aims to price based on value delivered, with ongoing discussions about pricing strategies as AI products evolve [49][50] Question: How does the company view innovation and product intensity moving forward? - The company expects to see an acceleration in innovation and product launches, with continued investment in AI [53][54]
Thomson Reuters(TRI) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-11-04 15:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total company organic revenues rose by 7%, with the big three segments growing by 9% [4][10] - Adjusted EBITDA increased by 10% to $672 million, reflecting a margin increase to 37.7% [10][26] - Adjusted EPS was $0.85 for the quarter, compared to $0.80 in the prior year [26] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Legal Professionals segment saw organic revenue growth of 9%, up from 8% in the first half of 2025 [6][11] - Corporates segment organic revenues grew by 7%, driven by offerings in Legal, Tax, and Risk portfolios [11][23] - Tax and Accounting organic revenues grew by 10%, supported by strong performance in Latin America and the U.S. [11][24] - Reuters News organic revenues rose by 3%, primarily due to growth in the agency business [12][25] - Global Print organic revenues declined by 4% year on year [12][25] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The percentage of annualized contract value from GenAI-enabled products increased to 24%, up from 22% in the previous quarter [25] - The company expects organic revenue growth of approximately 7% in Q4, including about 9% for the big three segments [31] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on leveraging AI innovations to enhance product offerings, particularly in the Legal Professionals and Tax and Accounting segments [5][21] - A balanced capital allocation approach is maintained, with a commitment to assess additional inorganic opportunities [8][9] - The company completed a $1 billion share repurchase program and remains well-capitalized with a net leverage of only 0.6 times [8][9] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management reaffirmed the full-year 2025 revenue and profit outlook, expecting approximately 9% organic revenue growth for the big three segments [4][29] - Temporary factors affecting growth include slower commercial print volumes, U.S. Federal government cancellations, and softer bookings trends in Corporates [5][29] - The company is optimistic about the long-term value proposition in government despite recent downgrades and cancellations [44][45] Other Important Information - The company is updating its 2026 financial framework, expecting organic revenue growth of 7.5% to 8% and margin expansion [32] - Free cash flow outlook for 2026 is raised to approximately $2.1 billion, reflecting confidence in operational efficiency [33] Q&A Session Summary Question: What are the recurring impacts of government and corporate headwinds? - Management remains confident in the corporate segment's growth potential despite temporary sales softness, expecting 9% to 11% organic growth next year [40][43] Question: How is customer reaction to AgenTik AI? - Customer feedback has been very positive, with significant changes in behavior noted among users, indicating strong adoption of the new tools [45][46] Question: What is the impact of the government shutdown on contracts? - Cancellations occurred prior to the shutdown, which has minimal impact on current revenue [52] Question: How does the company view competition in the AI assistant space? - New players have entered the AI assistant space, but the company is confident in its position and product development plans [68] Question: What is the pricing strategy in light of AI product value? - The company follows a price-to-value principle, ensuring pricing aligns with the efficiencies provided by AI products [93][94] Question: How does the company see AI affecting the tax business? - The tax business is expected to benefit from AI advancements, enabling more efficient processes and advisory services [114][115]
汤森路透Q3业绩超预期 确认2025财年销售额指引
Ge Long Hui A P P· 2025-11-04 14:32
Core Insights - Thomson Reuters reported third-quarter revenue of $1.78 billion, a year-over-year increase of 3%, slightly exceeding analyst expectations of $1.76 billion [1] - Adjusted earnings per share were $0.85, also above analyst expectations of $0.82 [1] - The company confirmed its fiscal year 2025 sales guidance of $7.475 billion to $7.512 billion, compared to market expectations of $7.489 billion [1]
Thomson Reuters(TRI) - 2025 Q3 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-11-04 14:00
Q3 2025 Performance Highlights - Thomson Reuters Q3 organic revenue grew by 7%, driven by a 9% increase in recurring revenue[13] - The "Big 3" (Legal, Corporates, and Tax & Accounting) experienced a 9% organic revenue growth[13] - Reported revenues increased by 3% to $1.8 billion[16] - Adjusted EBITDA increased by 10% to $672 million, with a margin of 37.7%, up 240 basis points[14] - Adjusted EPS increased by 6% to $0.85[14] Financial Outlook and Framework Updates - The company reaffirmed its FY 2025 outlook, expecting total and organic revenue to trend towards the lower end of the 3.0%-3.5% and 7.0%-7.5% ranges, respectively, while maintaining the Big 3 organic revenue growth outlook at approximately 9%[13] - For 2026, the company now anticipates adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of approximately 100 basis points and Free Cash Flow of approximately $2.1 billion[13] Capital Allocation and Liquidity - Thomson Reuters completed a $1.0 billion share buyback in October[13] - The company's net leverage stood at 0.6x as of September 30, with an estimated ~$9 billion of capital capacity by 2027[13] Segment Performance - Legal Professionals organic revenue grew by 9%, primarily driven by Westlaw and CoCounsel[13] - Corporates revenue increased by 10% to $0.5 billion[16] - Tax & Accounting Professionals revenue increased by 13% to $0.3 billion[16]
Thomson Reuters (TRI) Q3 Earnings and Revenues Top Estimates
ZACKS· 2025-11-04 13:51
Core Insights - Thomson Reuters reported quarterly earnings of $0.85 per share, exceeding the Zacks Consensus Estimate of $0.81 per share, and showing an increase from $0.80 per share a year ago, resulting in an earnings surprise of +4.94% [1][2] - The company achieved revenues of $1.78 billion for the quarter ended September 2025, surpassing the Zacks Consensus Estimate by 0.76% and up from $1.72 billion year-over-year [2] Earnings Performance - Over the last four quarters, Thomson Reuters has consistently surpassed consensus EPS estimates, achieving this four times [2] - The company had a favorable trend in estimate revisions ahead of the earnings release, contributing to a Zacks Rank 2 (Buy) for the stock, indicating expected outperformance in the near future [6] Future Outlook - Current consensus EPS estimate for the upcoming quarter is $1.04 on revenues of $2.02 billion, and for the current fiscal year, it is $3.85 on revenues of $7.48 billion [7] - The outlook for the Business - Services industry, where Thomson Reuters operates, is currently in the bottom 36% of Zacks industries, which may impact stock performance [8]
CB Insights:《2025年技术趋势报告》,一个正被AI从根本上重塑的全球产业图景
Core Insights - The report by CB Insights highlights that by 2025, AI will be a central strategic issue for boards, shifting from being an IT experiment to a core business focus [3] - AI is driving a structural transformation across various sectors, including corporate strategy, energy, geopolitics, finance, and healthcare, marking it as a "meta-trend" [2] M&A Trends - Since 2020, the share of AI in total tech M&A has doubled, reaching 7.2% by 2024 [3] - The leading acquirers have shifted from traditional tech giants to AI infrastructure and data management companies like Nvidia and Accenture [3] Competitive Landscape - The competition between "open" and "closed" model developers is intensifying, with closed models like OpenAI leading in funding [4] - OpenAI has raised $19.1 billion, significantly outpacing open model companies [4] Cost Dynamics - The cost of AI inference is decreasing rapidly, with OpenAI's GPT-4o model costing nearly ten times less than GPT-4 [5] - A mixed market is expected, with powerful closed models dominating complex workflows while smaller open models are used for specific tasks [5] Energy and Infrastructure - AI's demand for computing power is driving a revolution in energy and industrial sectors, with total spending on AI infrastructure projected to exceed $1 trillion [6] - Data center electricity consumption is expected to double from 460 TWh in 2022 to over 1000 TWh by 2026 [7] Space Economy - The cost of space launches has dramatically decreased, fostering a new space economy, particularly in satellite constellations [8] - SpaceX's Starlink has launched 1,935 objects in 2023, representing 73% of global launches [8] Financial and Healthcare Applications - AI is automating administrative tasks in finance, with the goal of freeing up human advisors [9] - In healthcare, AI is shifting disease management from passive treatment to proactive prediction, with significant investments in early detection technologies [10] Geopolitical Dynamics - The U.S. is leading in AI funding, receiving 71 cents of every dollar in global AI equity financing, while China is the only other major contender [12] - The report emphasizes the dual strategy of Chinese tech giants investing in both internal model development and supporting local AI startups [13] Emerging Trends - The report identifies a growing trend of "sovereign AI," where countries recognize the need to develop their own AI capabilities [13] - Countries like Belgium, Brazil, Italy, and Australia are emerging as specialized AI centers, potentially offering new collaboration opportunities for multinational companies [14]
Thomson Reuters(TRI) - 2025 Q3 - Quarterly Report
2025-11-04 12:06
Financial Performance - Revenues for Q3 2025 were $1,782 million, a 3.4% increase from $1,724 million in Q3 2024[53] - Operating profit for Q3 2025 was $593 million, up 42.9% from $415 million in Q3 2024[53] - Net earnings for Q3 2025 were $423 million, compared to $301 million in Q3 2024, representing a 40.7% increase[53] - Basic earnings per share for Q3 2025 were $0.94, up from $0.67 in Q3 2024, reflecting a 40.3% increase[53] - Earnings from continuing operations for Q3 2025 were $428 million, up from $277 million in Q3 2024, representing a 55% increase[59] - Adjusted EBITDA for Q3 2025 was $672 million, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 37.7%, compared to $609 million and 35.3% in Q3 2024[59] - Total revenues for Q3 2025 increased by 3% to $1,782 million, compared to $1,724 million in Q3 2024[69] - Adjusted EPS for Q3 2025 was $0.85, a 6% increase from $0.80 in Q3 2024[65] - Total revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, increased by 2% to $5,467 million compared to $5,349 million in 2024[73] - Total revenues for the three months ended September 30, 2025, were $1,782 million, with an adjusted EBITDA of $672 million, resulting in a margin of 37.7%[83] - For the nine months ended September 30, 2025, total revenues reached $5,487 million, with an adjusted EBITDA of $2,159 million, reflecting a margin of 39.3%[83] Cash Flow and Investments - The company reported operating cash flows from continuing operations of $705 million for Q3 2025, compared to $756 million in Q3 2024[57] - The company incurred net cash used in investing activities of $141 million in Q3 2025, compared to $206 million in Q3 2024[57] - Free cash flow for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, was $1,369 million, slightly down from $1,403 million in the same period of 2024[61] - Capital expenditures for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, were $476 million, up from $446 million in the same period of 2024[61] Assets and Liabilities - Total assets decreased to $17,850 million as of September 30, 2025, down from $18,437 million at the end of 2024[55] - The company’s total liabilities decreased to $6,089 million as of September 30, 2025, from $6,431 million at the end of 2024[55] - The company’s retained earnings decreased to $9,113 million as of September 30, 2025, down from $9,699 million at the end of 2024[55] - The net debt as of September 30, 2025, was $1,831 million, with a leverage ratio of net debt to adjusted EBITDA at 0.6:1[92] Segment Performance - The "Big 3" segments combined reported a revenue increase of 4% to $1,457 million in Q3 2025, compared to $1,403 million in Q3 2024[69] - Legal Professionals segment revenues decreased by 3% to $2,130 million, while Corporates segment revenues increased by 8% to $1,491 million[73] - The Tax & Accounting Professionals segment saw a significant increase in adjusted EBITDA of 21% to $401 million, with a margin of 44.2%[80] - Total recurring revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, increased by 3% to $4,401 million, driven by an 8% increase in Corporates[73] - Transactions revenues for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, increased by 4% to $712 million, with a notable 23% increase in the Tax & Accounting Professionals segment[73] - The "Big 3" segments combined reported a 7% increase in adjusted EBITDA to $1,986 million, with a margin improvement of 160 basis points[80] - Reuters News segment revenues increased by 1% to $621 million, while Global Print revenues decreased by 6% to $354 million[73] - Legal Professionals segment reported revenues of $2,130 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 48.3%[83] - The Reuters News segment generated revenues of $621 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 20.2%[83] - The Global Print segment achieved revenues of $354 million for the nine months ended September 30, 2025, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 37.0%[83] Operational Efficiency - The effective tax rate on adjusted earnings was 17.6% for the year ended December 31, 2024[65] - The overall adjusted EBITDA margin improved by 80 basis points compared to the previous year, reflecting operational efficiencies[80] - The Corporate costs for the three months ended September 30, 2025, were $(22) million, indicating a reduction in overhead expenses[83] - The adjusted EBITDA for the year ended December 31, 2024, was $2,779 million, with consolidated revenues excluding fair value adjustments at $7,267 million, resulting in a margin of 38.2%[88] - The adjusted EBITDA margin for the "Big 3" segments combined for the nine months ended September 30, 2024, was 42.3%[85] - The "Big 3" segments, which include Legal Professionals, Corporates, and Tax & Accounting Professionals, accounted for approximately 80% of the company's revenues[94] - Net debt is calculated as total debt plus related hedging instruments and lease liabilities, excluding unamortized transaction costs, with a focus on net cash outflow at maturity[94] - The net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio is calculated using net debt divided by adjusted EBITDA for the previous twelve-month period, reflecting a conservative measure of leverage[94]
Thomson Reuters third-quarter revenue rises, reaffirms 2025 guidance
Reuters· 2025-11-04 11:55
Core Insights - Thomson Reuters reported higher third-quarter revenue, driven by investments in artificial intelligence products within its legal and tax and accounting divisions [1] Group 1 - The increase in revenue is attributed to the company's strategic focus on artificial intelligence [1] - The performance in the legal and tax and accounting sectors indicates a positive trend in these divisions due to technological advancements [1]
Thomson Reuters Reports Third-Quarter 2025 Results
Prnewswire· 2025-11-04 11:30
Core Insights - Thomson Reuters reported a 3% increase in total revenues for Q3 2025, driven by a 7% growth in organic revenues, particularly in its "Big 3" segments: Legal Professionals, Corporates, and Tax & Accounting Professionals [1][4][23] - The company emphasized its AI-driven innovation strategy, which is reshaping professional workflows and enhancing customer capabilities [1][4] - A robust capital position allows the company to pursue further inorganic growth opportunities while maintaining a focus on long-term investment strategies [1] Financial Performance - Total revenues reached $1.782 billion in Q3 2025, up from $1.724 billion in Q3 2024, marking a 3% increase [2][3] - Operating profit surged by 43% to $593 million, attributed to higher revenues and an operating gain from the sale of a minority equity interest [2][3] - Diluted earnings per share (EPS) increased to $0.94, a 40% rise compared to $0.67 in the previous year [2][3] Revenue Breakdown - Recurring revenues accounted for 83% of total revenues, growing by 3%, while transaction revenues increased by 12% [3][23] - The "Big 3" segments collectively contributed to a 9% organic revenue growth, representing 82% of total revenues [5][23] - Global Print revenues declined by 4%, impacting overall revenue growth [3][5] Segment Highlights - Legal Professionals segment saw a 2% decrease in revenues, but organic growth was 9%, driven by products like Westlaw and CoCounsel [9][10] - Corporates segment revenues increased by 10%, with an 8% rise in adjusted EBITDA [12][13] - Tax & Accounting Professionals segment revenues rose by 15%, with a 10% organic growth rate, reflecting the impact of acquisitions [14][15] Cash Flow and Shareholder Returns - Net cash provided by operating activities decreased by 7% to $704 million, while free cash flow fell by 11% to $526 million [2][6] - The company completed a $1.0 billion share repurchase program, enhancing shareholder value [4][35] - A quarterly dividend of $0.595 per share was announced, marking the 32nd consecutive year of dividend increases [34] Future Outlook - The company reaffirmed its full-year 2025 outlook, expecting total revenue growth and organic revenue growth to trend towards the lower end of their respective ranges [24][26] - For 2026, the company anticipates adjusted EBITDA margin expansion of approximately 100 basis points and free cash flow of around $2.1 billion [30][31]