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Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported GAAP net income per share of $0.57 for Q3 2025, up from $0.52 in the prior quarter and down from $0.62 in Q3 2024 [21] - Core earnings per share remained stable at $0.50, consistent with the prior quarter but down from $0.58 a year ago [21] - The company generated $247 million in net realized gains during Q3 2025, marking the second highest net realized gain quarter since inception [21][22] - Total portfolio at fair value increased to $28.7 billion, up from $27.9 billion in the previous quarter and $25.9 billion a year ago [22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company originated over $3.9 billion in new investment commitments in Q3 2025, an increase of more than 50% from the previous quarter [28] - Approximately 60% of Q3 originations were with new borrowers, indicating a shift towards a more active M&A-driven market [29] - The weighted average organic EBITDA growth for portfolio companies was over 10%, significantly higher than market growth rates [34] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reviewed over $875 billion in estimated transactions over the last 12 months, a record for the company, indicating market expansion [8] - Credit spreads remained stable, with new first lien commitments completed at spreads consistent with the prior quarter and 20 basis points higher than the prior 12-month average [30] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maintain its current dividend level despite potential headwinds from lower short-term interest rates, supported by strong core earnings and a significant amount of spillover income [17][20] - The focus remains on investing in high-quality credits and maintaining rigorous credit standards while being selective in deal flow [37] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the stability of the economy and the ongoing strength of the M&A market, indicating that the company is at the early end of a new cycle [60] - The company does not foresee significant impacts from recent industry events, highlighting its differentiated credit selection and documentation standards [50][52] Other Important Information - The company has a strong liquidity position totaling $6.2 billion, including available cash, and a debt-to-equity ratio of 1.02x [25] - The fourth quarter 2025 dividend is set at $0.48 per share, continuing a record of stable or increasing dividends for 65 consecutive quarters [25] Q&A Session Summary Question: Dividend coverage and allocation of capital - Management confirmed that both vehicles will be allocated deals based on available capital math, with expectations for increased junior capital opportunities as transaction activity rises [40][43] Question: Industry competition and market dynamics - Management described the competitive environment as consistent with historical trends, noting that recent events have not significantly impacted their market [50][52] Question: Credit cycle indicators - Management indicated that underlying EBITDA growth and access to capital are key indicators to monitor for potential tightening in underwriting standards [58][60] Question: Use of at-the-market program - Management has been reducing the amount of at-the-market issuances, aiming to increase leverage over time while maintaining financial flexibility [68][70] Question: Spread dynamics in the broadly syndicated market - Management noted that while spreads in the broadly syndicated market may widen, the company operates with a more stable pricing model that does not move in lockstep with the broader market [81][82]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported GAAP net income per share of $0.57 for Q3 2025, up from $0.52 in the prior quarter and down from $0.62 in Q3 2024 [21] - Core earnings per share remained stable at $0.50, consistent with the prior quarter but down from $0.58 a year ago [21] - The annualized return on equity was reported at 10% [6] - The total portfolio at fair value increased to $28.7 billion, up from $27.9 billion in the previous quarter and $25.9 billion a year ago [22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company originated over $3.9 billion in new investment commitments in Q3 2025, an increase of more than 50% from the previous quarter [27] - Approximately 60% of the third quarter originations were with new borrowers, indicating a shift in market dynamics [28] - The weighted average organic EBITDA growth for portfolio companies was over 10%, significantly higher than the broader market growth rates [33] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reviewed over $875 billion in estimated transactions over the last 12 months, a record for the firm [8] - The non-accrual rate at cost ended the quarter at 1.8%, down 20 basis points from the prior quarter, remaining well below historical averages [32] - The company experienced increased transaction activity levels in Q4 2025, with total commitments reaching $735 million as of October 23, 2025 [34] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maintain its current dividend level despite potential headwinds from lower short-term interest rates, supported by a strong balance sheet and spillover income [17][20] - The focus remains on investing in high-quality credits and maintaining rigorous credit standards while being selective in deal flow [35] - The company is positioned to capitalize on higher-yielding opportunities within its non-qualifying asset basket [19] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in covering dividends in the foreseeable future, citing strong core earnings and spillover income as buffers [44] - The current market environment is viewed as favorable for M&A activity, with expectations of continued growth in transaction volumes [59] - Management noted that the recent events in the broadly syndicated market have not significantly impacted their competitive landscape [50] Other Important Information - The company recognized a $262 million realized gain on the sale of Potomac Energy Center, contributing to strong net realized gains for the quarter [10] - The company has a significant amount of dry powder, totaling $6.2 billion in liquidity, positioning it well for future investments [25] - The fourth quarter 2025 dividend is set at $0.48 per share, continuing a record of stable or increasing dividends for 65 consecutive quarters [25] Q&A Session Summary Question: Dividend coverage and allocation of capital - Management confirmed that both vehicles will be allocated deals based on available capital math, with expectations for more junior capital opportunities as transaction activity increases [38][42] Question: Industry competition and market dynamics - Management described the competitive environment as consistent with historical trends, noting that recent events have not significantly impacted their market position [49][50] Question: Credit cycle indicators - Management indicated that they are monitoring underlying EBITDA growth and access to capital as key indicators for potential tightening in underwriting standards [56][58] Question: Expected pace of exits and portfolio turnover - Management stated that exits typically move in lockstep with overall transaction volume, and the current quarter showed strong net gains despite increased exits [87]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported GAAP net income per share of $0.57 for Q3 2025, an increase from $0.52 in the prior quarter and a decrease from $0.62 in Q3 2024 [20] - Core earnings per share remained stable at $0.50, consistent with the prior quarter but down from $0.58 a year ago [20] - The company generated $247 million in net realized gains during the third quarter, marking the second highest net realized gain quarter since inception [20][21] - The total portfolio at fair value increased to $28.7 billion, up from $27.9 billion in the previous quarter and $25.9 billion a year ago [21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company originated over $3.9 billion in new investment commitments in Q3, a more than 50% increase from the previous quarter [25] - Approximately 60% of third quarter originations were with new borrowers, indicating a shift towards a more active M&A-driven market [26] - The weighted average organic EBITDA growth for portfolio companies was over 10%, significantly higher than the broader market growth rates [32] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reviewed over $875 billion in estimated transactions over the last 12 months, a record for the company, indicating an expanding market [6] - The non-accrual rate at cost decreased to 1.8%, down 20 basis points from the prior quarter, remaining well below historical averages [31] - The company’s credit spreads remained stable, with new first lien commitments completed at spreads consistent with the prior quarter [27] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to maintain its current dividend level despite potential headwinds from lower short-term interest rates, supported by a strong balance sheet and spillover income [17][19] - The focus remains on investing in high-quality credits and maintaining rigorous credit standards while being selective in deal flow [34] - The company is leveraging its origination scale to capitalize on new opportunities and enhance its competitive advantages in the market [34] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the stability of the economy and the underlying businesses, with no signs indicating a nearing end of the current cycle [56] - The company anticipates continued strong transaction activity levels in Q4, with a backlog reaching a record of $3 billion [33] - Management highlighted that the recent events in the broadly syndicated market could provide opportunities for private credit to gain market share [50] Other Important Information - The company has a significant amount of dry powder, totaling $6.2 billion in liquidity, positioning it well to support existing and new portfolio companies [24] - The fourth quarter 2025 dividend is set at $0.48 per share, extending a record of stable or increasing dividends for 65 consecutive quarters [24] Q&A Session Summary Question: Dividend coverage and allocation of capital - Management confirmed that both vehicles will be allocated deals based on available capital math, with expectations for increased junior capital opportunities as transaction activity rises [38][40] Question: Spillover income and dividend support - Management expressed confidence in covering the dividend and noted that spillover income provides additional stability if core earnings temporarily drop below the dividend level [42][44] Question: Industry competition and market dynamics - Management described the competitive environment as consistent with historical trends, noting that recent events have not significantly impacted the competitive landscape [48][49] Question: Underwriting strictness and market signals - Management indicated that underlying EBITDA growth and access to capital are key factors to monitor for potential changes in underwriting strictness [56] Question: Expected pace of exits and portfolio turnover - Management stated that exits typically move in lockstep with overall transaction volume, and the net number is more important to consider [82] Question: Other income and fee arrangements - Management clarified that the high other income was mainly from transaction or amendment-type fees and is not necessarily replicable every quarter [86]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - MSCI reported organic revenue growth of 9%, adjusted EBITDA growth of 10%, and adjusted earnings per share growth of over 15% in Q3 2025 [6] - The company repurchased $1.25 billion worth of shares in Q3, bringing year-to-date repurchases to over $1.5 billion, with an additional $3 billion authorized for future repurchases [6] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The index franchise achieved recurrent net new subscription sales growth of 27%, with 43% growth in the Americas [7] - Total AUM in investment products linked to MSCI indices reached $6.4 trillion, including $2.2 trillion in ETFs and $4.2 trillion in non-ETFs [7] - Analytics delivered recurrent net new sales growth of 16%, driven by strong adoption of risk tools and equity models by hedge funds [8] - Subscription run rate growth for wealth managers was nearly 11%, while asset owners posted 9% growth [12][14] - Subscription run rate growth for banks and broker dealers was 9%, with a record level of recurring sales [15] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Equity ETFs linked to MSCI indexes captured $46 billion of inflows during Q3 2025 [17] - The index retention rate remained durable at nearly 96% [17] - Sustainability and climate solutions saw an 8% subscription run rate growth, with climate solutions growing at 16% [19] Company Strategy and Development Direction - MSCI is focusing on expanding its presence in private credit and enhancing its client segmentation strategy [10][25] - The company is leveraging AI to enhance existing products and develop new capabilities, aiming for significant value creation for shareholders [9][41] - MSCI is committed to helping the active asset management industry recover by creating new products, particularly in the active ETF space [31][60] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about long-term opportunities and the ability to drive growth from recent innovations [16] - The company is seeing solid momentum in delivering new products and capabilities, translating into tangible results [21] - Management acknowledged challenges in the sustainability and climate segment but emphasized the potential for monetization through indices [54] Other Important Information - MSCI launched a private credit factor model and a new global taxonomy for private assets, enhancing transparency and standardization [8][9] - The company is actively developing datasets and products for market makers and broker dealers to fuel liquidity [33] Q&A Session Summary Question: Strategy around private credit - Management is bullish on private credit, emphasizing the need for transparency tools for private credit funds to attract investors [24][25] Question: New products and marketing efforts - The strategy includes creating new products for the active asset management industry and expanding into other client segments [31][35] Question: AI opportunities and cost savings - AI is expected to dramatically increase margins by creating new products and reducing operational costs [63][64] Question: Sales momentum in asset management - The sales momentum is attributed to upselling additional content and services to existing clients, particularly in index [68] Question: Competitive moat against new entrants - MSCI's proprietary data and trusted brand create significant barriers to entry for competitors [72][75] Question: Performance of net new sales in EMEA - There was a decline in net new sales in EMEA, with management noting the need for further product innovation in that region [78]

Economic Impact of Government Shutdown - The ongoing government shutdown, now in its 28th day, is expected to slow down the economy due to the inability to obtain necessary government approvals for various activities [2][4] - The shutdown affects a significant number of government employees, estimated at 250,000 to 300,000, who are also customers of the company [3] IPO and M&A Activity - The company had a strong third quarter with numerous IPOs and increased M&A advisory revenue, but the fourth quarter may present challenges due to the SEC being closed, hindering IPO filings [1][5] - Despite the shutdown, M&A deals continue to progress, with two deals announced recently [6] Credit Quality and Concerns - The company reports that its exposure to recent banking sector issues, including bankruptcies and fraud concerns, is not material [7][8] - Credit quality has improved post-pandemic, with charge-off rates normalizing to levels similar to 2019, which was a low point for credit costs [8][9] Private Credit Market - The rise of private credit, particularly from firms like Blackstone and Apollo, poses competitive risks to traditional banking, as many loans are now being made outside the banking system [16][17] - The company emphasizes the importance of maintaining customer relationships and providing compelling reasons for clients to choose traditional banking over private credit options [18] Regulatory Environment - The company anticipates a more favorable regulatory backdrop with the upcoming resolution of the Basel 3 endgame, which could impact capital requirements and overall banking operations [19]

Core Viewpoint - Citigroup CEO Jane Fraser expressed skepticism about the future of the private credit market, questioning whether it will function as a collaborative effort or remain competitive [1] Group 1: Private Credit Market - Fraser hopes that private credit will collaborate with other financing forms to provide solutions that can foster development in areas such as artificial intelligence [1]

Investment Strategy - Private credit funds are increasing investments in newly formed joint ventures [1] - This structure provides financing without adding debt to the recipient company's balance sheet [1]

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