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LLM总是把简单任务复杂化,Karpathy无语:有些任务无需那么多思考
3 6 Ke· 2025-08-12 04:15
Core Insights - The emergence of reasoning large models and thinking chains has significantly enhanced the deep thinking capabilities of large models, improving their versatility across different tasks [1][2] - However, there is a growing concern that these models are becoming overly specialized, leading to excessive reasoning even for simple tasks, which complicates their usability [3][4] Group 1: Model Capabilities - The introduction of thinking chains allows large models to conduct in-depth analysis and task breakdown, making them suitable for long-term and complex tasks [1] - The reasoning models have evolved to possess various auxiliary functions and autonomous capabilities, enhancing their overall performance [2] Group 2: Overthinking Phenomenon - Users have observed that enabling deep thinking often results in unnecessarily lengthy reasoning processes for simple tasks, making it difficult to obtain desired responses [3][4] - This overthinking tendency is particularly pronounced in coding tasks, where models may engage in extensive reasoning and analysis, leading to delays in providing results [6][11] Group 3: User Experience - Andrej Karpathy has highlighted the challenges posed by the models' inclination towards excessive reasoning, particularly in coding scenarios, where simple checks become overly complicated [6][9] - Users have expressed a desire for a more straightforward approach to task execution, allowing them to specify urgency and intent more clearly [9][12] Group 4: Benchmarking Issues - Karpathy attributes the overthinking issue to the optimization of large models for long-term tasks in benchmark testing, which negatively impacts their responsiveness to ordinary tasks [11][13] - The models struggle to differentiate between varying contexts of user queries, leading to a tendency to assume a more complex scenario than intended [12]
深度思考,不要过度思考
3 6 Ke· 2025-06-27 11:55
Group 1 - The core idea emphasizes the importance of deep thinking over mere diligence in management [1][3] - Overthinking is identified as a form of "pseudo deep thinking," which leads to inefficiency and distraction from key issues [2][13] - The distinction between deep thinking and overthinking is crucial for effective problem-solving [3][4] Group 2 - Deep thinking involves breaking down problems to their essence and understanding underlying causes [4][12] - Overthinking manifests in three main forms: ruminating on the past, worrying about the future, and decision paralysis [14][17][21] - Effective thinking should lead to action, and deep thinking should focus on uncovering root causes rather than getting lost in details [24][30] Group 3 - To avoid overthinking, three strategies are proposed: setting a deadline for thoughts, focusing on action-oriented thinking, and creating a problem checklist [26][29][32] - Setting a thinking deadline helps to redirect focus towards execution and prevents excessive deliberation [27][28] - Action-oriented thinking requires defining the end goal and limiting thoughts to those directly related to actions [30][31]