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开启RL Scaling新纪元,siiRL开源:完全分布式强化学习框架,支持超千卡规模高效训练
机器之心· 2025-07-29 07:44
Core Insights - The article emphasizes the importance of overcoming scalability bottlenecks in Reinforcement Learning (RL) frameworks as a key to unlocking advanced AI reasoning capabilities and achieving stronger general intelligence [2][31] - The introduction of the siiRL framework by the Shanghai Institute of Intelligent Technology is highlighted as a significant advancement in supporting large-scale and efficient RL training [3][31] Group 1: Scalability Challenges - Traditional RL frameworks often rely on a centralized controller architecture, which leads to performance bottlenecks and memory overflow when scaled to hundreds or thousands of GPUs [8][9] - The centralized design is manageable at smaller scales but becomes a critical limitation as the system expands, resulting in high I/O and communication overhead [9][10] Group 2: siiRL Framework Features - siiRL employs an innovative multi-controller paradigm and fully distributed architecture, effectively removing the central node and distributing tasks across all worker nodes [11][31] - The framework demonstrates near-linear scalability, achieving a 7-fold increase in end-to-end training throughput and maintaining performance even at 1024 GPU scales [21][31] - The architecture includes three core components: DAG Planner for workflow definition, DAG Workers for task execution, and Data Coordinators for managing data flow [13][14][15] Group 3: Performance Validation - Experimental results show that siiRL outperforms baseline frameworks, achieving up to 2.62 times higher throughput in data-intensive scenarios [19][26] - In long-context tasks, the performance advantage of siiRL increases significantly as context length grows, demonstrating its efficiency in handling larger data communication volumes [26][27] - Convergence tests indicate that performance improvements do not compromise model accuracy, with reward and entropy curves closely aligning with baseline frameworks [28][31] Group 4: Future Plans - The framework is designed to support complex multi-agent systems, with plans to enhance compatibility with multi-agent reinforcement learning (MARL) algorithms and improve agent-environment interaction mechanisms [29][31]
o3解读:OpenAI发力tool use,Manus们会被模型取代吗?
Founder Park· 2025-04-30 12:31
Core Insights - OpenAI has released two new models, o3 and o4-mini, which showcase advanced reasoning and multimodal capabilities, marking a significant upgrade in their product offerings [8][10][45]. - The o3 model is identified as the most advanced reasoning model with comprehensive tool use and multimodal capabilities, while o4-mini is optimized for efficient reasoning [8][10]. - The evolution of agentic capabilities in o3 allows it to perform tasks more like a human agent, enhancing its utility in various applications [14][15]. Group 1: Model Capabilities - The o3 model integrates tool use and reasoning processes seamlessly, outperforming previous models in task execution speed and effectiveness [14][10]. - OpenAI's approach to model training has shifted, focusing on creating a mini reasoning version first before scaling up, which contrasts with previous methods [9][10]. - The multimodal capabilities of o3 allow it to understand and manipulate images, enhancing its application in factual tasks [45][46]. Group 2: Agentic Evolution - The agentic capabilities of o3 enable it to perform complex tasks, such as web browsing and data analysis, with a level of efficiency comparable to human agents [14][16]. - There is a discussion on the divergence of agent product development into two technical routes: OpenAI's black-box approach versus Manus's white-box approach [15][16]. - Testing of o3 against classic use cases shows its ability to gather and analyze information effectively, although it still requires user prompts for optimal performance [16][19]. Group 3: Market Position and Pricing - OpenAI's o3 model is priced higher than its competitors, reflecting its advanced capabilities, while o4-mini is significantly cheaper, making it accessible for broader use [77][78]. - The pricing strategy indicates that all leading models are competing at a similar level, with o3 being the most expensive among them [77][79]. - The introduction of Codex CLI aims to democratize access to coding capabilities, allowing users to interact with AI models in a more integrated manner [64][68]. Group 4: User Feedback and Limitations - User feedback highlights some limitations in visual reasoning and coding capabilities of o3 and o4-mini, indicating areas for improvement [69][70]. - Specific tasks, such as counting fingers or reading clock times, have shown inconsistent results, suggesting that visual reasoning still requires refinement [70][72]. - Concerns have been raised regarding the coding capabilities of the new models, with some users finding them less effective than previous iterations [75][76]. Group 5: Future Directions - OpenAI's ongoing research into reinforcement learning (RL) suggests a focus on enhancing model performance through experience-based learning [81][85]. - The concept of "Era of Experience" emphasizes the need for agents to learn from interactions with their environment, moving beyond traditional training methods [85][88]. - Future developments may include improved planning and reasoning capabilities, allowing models to better integrate with real-world applications [89][90].
o3 深度解读:OpenAI 终于发力 tool use,agent 产品危险了吗?
海外独角兽· 2025-04-25 11:52
作者:cage, haozhen 我们在 2025 年 Q1 的大模型季报 中提到,在 AGI 路线图上,只有智能提升是唯一主线,因此我们持 续关注头部 AI Lab 的模型发布。上周 OpenAI 密集发布了 o 系列最新的两个模型 o3 和 o4-mini,开 源了 Codex CLI,还推出了在 API 中使用的 GPT 4.1。本文将着重对这些新发布进行解读,尤其是 o3 agentic 和多模态 CoT 新能力。 我们认为 OpenAI 在数次平淡的更新后,终于拿出了有惊艳表现的 o3。融合了 tool use 能力后,模型 表现已经覆盖了 agent 产品常用的 use case。Agent 产品开始分化出两类路线:一类是像 o3 那样把 和 o3 的发布模式一样, OpenAI 的 reasoning model 都是先训练出一个 mini reasoning 版本,再 scale 到 一个 long inference time、full tool use 能力的模型上。 而之前 GPT 模型总是先训练出最大的模型,再蒸 馏到小模型上。这个策略值得探讨其原因,我们的猜测是 RL 算法比较脆弱, ...
从 R1 到 Sonnet 3.7,Reasoning Model 首轮竞赛中有哪些关键信号?
海外独角兽· 2025-03-03 13:10
作者:Cage、Yongxin、Siqi 编辑:Siqi DeepSeek R1 催化 了 reasoning model 的竞争:在过去的一个月里,头部 AI labs 已经发布了三个 SOTA reasoning models:OpenAI 的 o3-mini 和deep research, xAI 的 Grok 3 和 Anthropic 的 Claude 3.7 Sonnet。 随着头部 Al labs 先后释出自己的 reasoning model,新范式的第一轮竞赛暂时告一段落。 各家 reasoning model 各有长板,但都没有拉开大的领先优势:OpenAI 和 xAI 有着最强的 base model 和 竞赛解题能力,Anthropic 更关注真实世界的工程问题,Claude 3.7 Sonnet 的混合推理模型可能会成为 之后各家发布新模型的标准操作。 在这一波新模型密集发布后的间隙,我们对已有的 reasoning models 发布进行了总结梳理,除了平 行比较各些模型的实际能力和长板外,更重要的目标是识别出本轮发布中的关键信号。 整体上,我们还处于 RL Scaling 的早期 ...