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Boise Cascade(BCC) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-05 16:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated second quarter sales were $1.7 billion, down 3% from 2024 [7] - Net income was $62 million or $1.64 per share, compared to $112.3 million or $2.84 per share in the prior year quarter [7] - Included in the results were a $7.7 million pre-tax gain on asset sales [7] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Wood Products sales were $447.2 million, down 9% year-over-year, with segment EBITDA at $37.3 million compared to $95.1 million in the prior year [10] - Building Materials Distribution (BMD) sales were $1.6 billion, down 2% from the previous year, with segment EBITDA of $91.8 million compared to $97.1 million [10] - BMD's gross margin was 15.4%, a 60 basis point year-over-year improvement despite increased selling and distribution expenses [11] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - U.S. housing starts and single-family housing starts decreased by 18% compared to the prior year quarter [7] - Plywood sales volume was 356 million feet, down from 383 million feet in the second quarter of 2024 [13] - Average plywood net sales price was $342 per 1,000 feet, down 6% year-over-year [13] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on addressing near-term challenges while maintaining service standards and investing in sustainable growth opportunities [9] - The modernization project at the Oakdale Mill is substantially complete, enhancing operational efficiency and reliability [8] - The company aims to solidify and expand its market-leading national distribution presence [16] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expects headwinds for residential construction activity to persist, with a range of potential EBITDA outcomes for the third quarter [19] - Long-term demand drivers for residential construction remain robust, supported by structural and generational factors [22][23] - The company anticipates consumer confidence to improve with lower interest rates and greater clarity on U.S. economic policy [23] Other Important Information - Capital expenditures for the first half of 2025 were $132 million, with a commitment to a capital spending range of $220 million to $240 million for the year [15] - The company paid $18 million in regular dividends and repurchased approximately $96 million of common stock in 2025 [18] Q&A Session Summary Question: Performance gap between LVL and I-joist volumes - Management noted that LVL has better resiliency due to diverse application opportunities, while I-joist is more limited [27] Question: EWP destocking and its impact - Management indicated that purchase profiles are changing, with less mill directs and more activity in distribution [47] Question: Operating rates and EWP pricing outlook - Operating rates were in the low 80s for EWP, with expectations of a decline to 65-70% depending on demand [49] Question: Update on the strike at the Billings facility - The strike involves 19 employees at one BMD location, with no anticipated material impact on operations [51][52] Question: General line business performance - General line categories performed well, with expectations to remain strong due to customer reliance on distribution inventories [58]
Boise Cascade(BCC) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-08-05 16:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated second quarter sales were $1.7 billion, down 3% from 2024 [6] - Net income was $62 million or $1.64 per share, compared to $112.3 million or $2.84 per share in the prior year quarter [6] - Included in the results were a $7.7 million pre-tax gain on asset sales [6] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Wood Products sales were $447.2 million, down 9% year-over-year, with segment EBITDA of $37.3 million compared to $95.1 million in the prior year [9] - Building Material Distribution (BMD) sales were $1.6 billion, down 2% year-over-year, with segment EBITDA of $91.8 million compared to $97.1 million in the prior year [11] - LVL volumes increased by 818% year-over-year, while I-joist volumes decreased by 5% [12] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - U.S. housing starts and single-family housing starts decreased by 18% compared to the prior year quarter [6] - Plywood sales volume was 356 million feet, down from 383 million feet in the prior year quarter [13] - BMD's gross margin was 15.4%, a 60 basis point year-over-year improvement [11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on addressing near-term challenges while maintaining service standards [8] - Investments are being made to drive sustainable growth, supported by strong structural demand drivers in residential construction [8] - The modernization project at the Oakdale Mill is substantially complete, enhancing operational efficiency [7] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expects headwinds for residential construction activity to persist [19] - Anticipated third quarter EBITDA for Wood Products is estimated between $20 million and $30 million [19] - Long-term demand drivers for residential construction remain robust, supported by demographic trends [23] Other Important Information - Capital expenditures for the first half of 2025 were $132 million, with a capital spending range for 2025 unchanged at $220 million to $240 million [15] - The company paid $18 million in regular dividends and repurchased approximately $96 million of common stock in 2025 [17] Q&A Session Summary Question: What has driven the performance gap between LVL and I-joist volumes? - Management noted that LVL has better resiliency due to diverse application opportunities, while I-joist is more limited [27] Question: How do you see EWP pricing going forward? - Management indicated that operating rates were in the low 80s for EWP, with expectations of a potential decline in rates depending on demand [52] Question: Can you provide an update on the strike at the Billings facility? - The strike involves 19 employees and is limited to one of the 38 BMD locations, with no anticipated material impact [55]
Boise Cascade(BCC) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Presentation
2025-08-05 15:00
Financial Performance - Boise Cascade's Q2 2025 sales were $1.7 billion, a decrease of 3% compared to Q2 2024[6] - Net income for Q2 2025 was $62.0 million, or $1.64 per share, compared to $112.3 million, or $2.84 per share, in Q2 2024[6] - Adjusted EBITDA for Q2 2025 was $119.0 million, a decrease of 34% compared to $181.2 million in Q2 2024[8] Segment Performance - Building Materials Distribution (BMD) sales were $1.6149 billion in Q2 2025, down from $1.6552 billion in Q2 2024[8] - Wood Products sales were $447.2 million in Q2 2025, down from $489.8 million in Q2 2024[8] - BMD Adjusted EBITDA was $91.8 million in Q2 2025, compared to $97.1 million in Q2 2024[8] - Wood Products Adjusted EBITDA was $37.3 million in Q2 2025, compared to $95.1 million in Q2 2024[8] Capital Allocation - Capital expenditures year-to-date (YTD) 2025 totaled $132 million, with $70 million allocated to Wood Products and $62 million to BMD[25] - Share repurchases YTD July 2025 amounted to approximately $96 million[25] Outlook for Q3 2025 - Wood Products Adjusted EBITDA is projected to be $20 - $30 million[26] - BMD Adjusted EBITDA is projected to be $70 - $80 million[26] - Total Company Adjusted EBITDA is projected to be $80 - $100 million, net of approximately $10 million of estimated unallocated corporate costs[26]
PotlatchDeltic(PCH) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-29 17:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total adjusted EBITDA for Q2 2025 was $52 million, down from $63 million in Q1 2025, primarily due to seasonally lower harvest volumes and higher forest management costs in the Timberland segment, along with an inventory impairment charge in Wood Products [21][5][6] - Adjusted EBITDA for the Timberlands segment decreased from $42 million in Q1 to $40 million in Q2, with a slight decrease in harvest volumes [22][21] - Adjusted EBITDA for Wood Products dropped from $12 million in Q1 to $2 million in Q2, driven by lower lumber prices and increased processing costs [25][21] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Wood Products division earned $2 million in adjusted EBITDA during Q2, impacted by lower lumber prices and several nonrecurring items [6][25] - Timberlands harvested 1.86 million tons in Q2, with Idaho's sawlog prices increasing by 9% per ton compared to Q1, while Southern sawlog prices rose by 2% [22][24] - The Real Estate segment produced adjusted EBITDA of $23 million in Q2, matching Q1 results, with 7,500 acres sold at an average price of $3,100 per acre [26][21] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Average total housing starts were just above 1.3 million units in Q2, with single-family starts around 900,000 units, indicating a stable housing market despite economic uncertainty [17][18] - The repair and remodel sector remains subdued, but slight gains in expenditures are forecasted for 2025 and modest growth in 2026 [19][18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on capital allocation strategies that create long-term value, including maintaining dividends, key capital investments, and opportunistic share repurchases [14][15] - The company anticipates higher lumber prices due to increased duties on Canadian softwood lumber and potential tariffs, which could positively impact domestic lumber prices [11][20] Management Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about long-term fundamentals driving demand in the industry, despite near-term uncertainties [20][18] - The company expects improved results in the Wood Products division in Q3, as challenges faced in Q2 are not anticipated to recur [31][30] Other Important Information - The company repurchased $56 million of its common stock in Q2 at an average price of $39 per share, marking the largest share repurchase volume in a single quarter since becoming a REIT in 2006 [14][15] - The company has $395 million in liquidity, including $95 million in cash, and plans to refinance $100 million of debt maturing in August [27][28] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you walk us through the lumber price forecast? - Management indicated that duties are coming into effect, which will force supply adjustments in the marketplace, leading to a potential increase in prices by September [36][38] Question: Will the unfavorable costs in Wood Products reverse in Q3? - Management confirmed that the challenges faced in Q2, including inventory charges and freight issues, are expected to reverse in Q3, leading to improved earnings [40][41] Question: How does the company view share repurchases amid uncertainty? - Management emphasized the importance of protecting dividends and the balance sheet, while also being aggressive with share repurchases due to the stock trading at a significant discount to NAV [44][48] Question: What is the outlook for solar options and incentives? - Management remains optimistic about solar opportunities, indicating that recent changes in incentives have not significantly impacted their solar projects [58][66] Question: What is the company's stance on Timberland M&A? - Management expressed a desire to be an incremental buyer of Timberland but noted that current prices make it challenging to achieve acceptable returns on investment [92][93]
PotlatchDeltic(PCH) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-29 17:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total adjusted EBITDA for Q2 2025 was $52 million, down from $63 million in Q1 2025, primarily due to lower harvest volumes and higher forest management costs in the Timberland segment, along with an inventory impairment charge in Wood Products [19][3][4] - Adjusted EBITDA for the Timberlands segment decreased from $42 million in Q1 to $40 million in Q2, while Wood Products saw a drop from $12 million to $2 million [20][22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Wood Products division earned $2 million in adjusted EBITDA during Q2, impacted by lower lumber prices and several nonrecurring items totaling approximately $7 million [4][22] - Timberlands harvested 1.86 million tons in Q2, with Idaho's sawlog prices increasing by 9% per ton compared to Q1, while Southern sawlog prices rose by 2% [20][21] - Real estate segment produced adjusted EBITDA of $23 million in Q2, matching Q1 results, with 7,500 acres sold at an average price of $3,100 per acre [23][24] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Average total housing starts were just above 1.3 million units in Q2, with single-family starts around 900,000 units, indicating a stable market despite economic uncertainty [14][15] - The repair and remodel sector remains subdued, but slight gains in expenditures are forecasted for 2025 and modest growth in 2026 [16][17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on capital allocation strategies that create long-term shareholder value, including maintaining dividends, key capital investments, and opportunistic share repurchases [12] - The company anticipates improved results in Wood Products for Q3, driven by the resolution of temporary challenges faced in Q2 [29][30] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about long-term fundamentals driving demand in the industry, despite near-term headwinds [18] - Lumber prices are expected to trend higher as Canadian softwood lumber duties and potential tariffs come into effect [9][18] Other Important Information - The company repurchased $56 million of its common stock in Q2 at an average price of $39 per share, marking the largest share repurchase volume in a single quarter since becoming a REIT in 2006 [12][13] - The company has $395 million in liquidity, including $95 million in cash, and plans to refinance $100 million of debt maturing in August [25][26] Q&A Session Summary Question: What are the assumptions behind the forecast of flat lumber prices for Q3 despite a 9% decline quarter-to-date? - Management indicated that duties are coming into effect, which will force supply adjustments in the marketplace, leading to a gradual increase in prices [34][35] Question: Will the unfavorable costs and inventory charge in Wood Products largely go away in Q3? - Management confirmed that the challenges faced in Q2 are expected to reverse in Q3, leading to improved earnings [38][39] Question: How does the company balance near-term uncertainty with attractive discounts to NAV for share repurchases? - Management emphasized the importance of protecting dividends and the balance sheet while utilizing free cash flow for shareholder value [42][46] Question: What is the outlook for tariffs and duties on lumber? - Management speculated that a tariff may be imposed on top of the duties, based on historical actions of the administration [51][52] Question: Is the company inclined to be an incremental buyer or seller of Timberland? - Management expressed a desire to buy Timberland but noted that current prices may not yield acceptable returns, leading to a more cautious approach [88][90] Question: What are the expectations for capital expenditures in the Wood Products business? - Management indicated that opportunities exist for growth and improvement in the Wood Products business, with plans to revisit expansion opportunities later in the year [99][100]
PotlatchDeltic (PCH) Earnings Call Presentation
2025-07-11 11:13
Company Strategy & Fundamentals - PotlatchDeltic has the highest direct leverage to lumber prices among timber REITs[4] - The company's strategy leverages favorable fundamentals in US housing, including housing starts, building permits, and existing home sales[4] - Timberlands provide stability, capturing incremental land value and offering working forest benefits[4] Timberlands Segment - PotlatchDeltic owns 1.9 million acres of high-quality timberlands[6,7] - The company plants approximately 25 million seedlings every year, managing timberlands on a long-term sustainable basis[7] - The company has 86 million tons of merchantable timber inventory, with 64% being sawlogs[11,12] - In Idaho, sawlogs represent 90% of the harvest volume, and about 70% of sawlog prices are indexed to lumber prices[16] Wood Products Segment - PotlatchDeltic ranks as a top-10 lumber producer in the U S with 1 2 billion board feet of capacity[6,20] - Lumber shipments have increased by 60% in six years due to high-return capital projects and acquisitions[20] Real Estate Segment - The company has identified approximately 210,000 rural acres for sale at a premium to timberland value[23] - The company owns a 4,800-acre master-plan community in Little Rock, Arkansas, with approximately 65% of residential lots sold and 54% of commercial acres sold[23] Capital Allocation - Returning cash to shareholders through a sustainable and growing dividend is a key capital allocation strategy[25] - The company repurchased $25 million of shares in the first half of 2019 at $37 per share[28] - The dividend per share has increased by 29% since 2012, reaching $1.60 in 2019[27]
Boise Cascade Company (BCC) Earnings Call Presentation
2025-07-10 13:36
Financial Performance - The company's total shareholder return was 347% in the five years ending December 2024[4] - The company's last twelve months (LTM) revenue was $6.6 billion[4] - The company's revenue compound annual growth rate (CAGR) from 2019 to LTM is 7%[4] - The Wood Products division's LTM revenue was $1.78 billion with a 15.1% LTM EBITDA margin, up from 8.8% in 2019[40] - The Building Materials Distribution (BMD) division's LTM revenue was $6.1 billion, with an 8.8% CAGR from IPO in 2013 to LTM[49] Capital Allocation and Share Growth - The company has invested $1.58 billion in the company via M&A/Capex and $1.35 billion in shareholder returns since 2019[4] - The company's sales per housing start have grown at a 5% CAGR[32] - The company's laminated veneer lumber (LVL) market share is 40% of industry production, and I-joist market share is 37% of industry production[41] Market Position and Strategy - Independent pro dealers account for 49% of the company's customer segments[36] - Engineered Wood Products (EWP) account for 62% of the Wood Products division's LTM sales[41] - General line products account for 43% of the Building Materials Distribution (BMD) division's LTM sales[50]
Boise Cascade Q1 Earnings Miss Estimates, Sales Beat, Stock Dips
ZACKS· 2025-05-06 15:30
Core Viewpoint - Boise Cascade Company (BCC) reported mixed first-quarter 2025 results, with earnings missing estimates while sales exceeded expectations, reflecting a decline in both metrics year-over-year due to lower selling prices and sales volumes, alongside operational challenges [1][3]. Financial Performance - Adjusted earnings per share (EPS) for Q1 2025 were $1.06, missing the Zacks Consensus Estimate of $1.36 by 22.1%, and down from $2.61 in the same quarter last year [3]. - Quarterly sales reached $1.54 billion, surpassing the consensus mark of $1.45 billion by 5.7%, but decreased by 7% year-over-year [3]. - Adjusted EBITDA was $91.6 million, a significant decline of 46% from the prior-year quarter [3]. Segment Analysis - **Wood Products**: Sales totaled $415.8 million, down 11% year-over-year due to lower engineered wood products and sales prices. Adjusted EBITDA fell to $40.2 million, down 11% from $95.6 million a year ago [4]. - **Building Materials Distribution (BMD)**: Sales decreased by 7% year-over-year to $1.41 billion, attributed to lower plywood sales prices and reduced sales volumes. Adjusted EBITDA dropped 25% year-over-year to $62.8 million [5]. Liquidity and Debt - As of March 31, 2025, total liquidity was $957.5 million, down from $1.109 billion at the end of 2024, with cash and cash equivalents at $561.8 million [6]. - Net long-term debt slightly increased to $446.4 million from $446.2 million at the end of 2024 [6]. Share Repurchase Activity - In Q1 2025, the company repurchased 482,700 shares for a total value of $53.9 million, followed by an additional repurchase of 179,445 shares for approximately $17 million in April 2025 [7][8]. Market Outlook - The company plans to remain flexible in response to evolving market conditions in the second quarter, supported by a strong balance sheet for continued investments in residential construction trends [2].
UFP Industries (UFPI) Lags Q1 Earnings and Revenue Estimates
ZACKS· 2025-04-28 22:55
Company Performance - UFP Industries reported quarterly earnings of $1.30 per share, missing the Zacks Consensus Estimate of $1.59 per share, and down from $1.96 per share a year ago [1] - The earnings surprise was -18.24%, and the company has surpassed consensus EPS estimates only once in the last four quarters [2] - Revenues for the quarter were $1.6 billion, missing the Zacks Consensus Estimate by 2.19%, and down from $1.64 billion year-over-year [3] Market Context - UFP Industries shares have declined about 5.3% since the beginning of the year, compared to a decline of -6.1% for the S&P 500 [4] - The current consensus EPS estimate for the upcoming quarter is $2.17 on revenues of $1.9 billion, and for the current fiscal year, it is $7.05 on revenues of $6.77 billion [8] Industry Outlook - The Building Products - Wood industry is currently in the bottom 37% of over 250 Zacks industries, indicating a challenging environment [9] - Boise Cascade, a competitor in the same industry, is expected to report quarterly earnings of $1.36 per share, reflecting a year-over-year decline of -47.9% [10]