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Apogee(APOG) - 2026 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-10-10 14:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net sales increased by 4.6% to $358.2 million, driven by $24.9 million of inorganic sales from the acquisition of UW Solutions [8][10] - Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 12.4%, primarily due to lower price and volume, unfavorable mix, and higher material, tariff, and health insurance costs [8][10] - Adjusted diluted EPS declined to $0.98, mainly driven by lower adjusted EBITDA and higher interest expense [8][10] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Performance Services net sales increased, driven by inorganic sales from UW Solutions and strong organic growth of 18.6% [9][10] - Metals segment net sales declined slightly, reflecting a less favorable mix, partially offset by higher volume and price [9] - Glass segment net sales declined, with adjusted EBITDA margin moderating due to reduced volume and price from lower end-market demand [9][10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The competitive environment for glass has not improved, leading to lowered expectations for glass volume and price [4][10] - Higher aluminum costs are expected to pressure pricing and volume in the Metals segment [4][10] - Bid activity for glass business remains up compared to last year, but price pressures are impacting volume [4][10] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on driving year-over-year net sales and adjusted EPS growth, primarily through Performance Services [5][10] - Strategic actions include tariff mitigation efforts and Project Fortify II to enhance organizational agility [7][10] - The company aims to pursue acquisitions that align with strategic and financial objectives, enhancing product offerings and geographic reach [7][10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed disappointment over changes impacting guidance but remains optimistic about growth in Performance Services [5][10] - The company anticipates challenges in the glass and metals segments due to competitive pressures and rising costs [4][10] - Despite macroeconomic challenges, management is confident in the company's strong cash flow and balance sheet for future success [15][10] Other Important Information - The One Big Beautiful Bill Act is expected to provide a cash tax benefit primarily impacting fiscal 2026 [11][10] - The company is updating its outlook for net sales to a range of $1.39 billion - $1.42 billion and adjusted diluted EPS to $3.60 - $3.90 [10][11] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you expand on the organic growth in Performance Services? - Management noted strong growth in UW Solutions, particularly due to regained distribution and cross-selling opportunities [21][23] Question: What is driving the increase in services backlog? - The backlog growth was attributed to projects in the Northeast and efforts to expand into new markets [25][26] Question: What are the expectations for glass segment margins in the next two quarters? - Management expects mid-teens EBITDA margins despite top-line challenges, emphasizing a focus on preserving premium product pricing [32][33] Question: How much of the lowered guide for metals is due to cost pressure? - The pressure is mainly from higher aluminum costs, which have increased by approximately 20% during the second quarter [36][39] Question: Have there been shifts towards smaller or non-traditional projects? - There has been a shift towards smaller projects, particularly in the glass business, which has led to increased competition and lower margins [48][51] Question: What could impact the EPS guidance for FY 2026? - Continued upward cost pressure on aluminum and the effectiveness of cost control measures under Project Fortify II could impact EPS [52][53]
Apogee(APOG) - 2026 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-10-10 14:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net sales increased by 4.6% to $358.2 million, driven by $24.9 million of inorganic sales from the acquisition of UW Solutions [8][10] - Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 12.4%, primarily due to lower price and volume, unfavorable mix, and higher material, tariff, and health insurance costs [8][10] - Adjusted diluted EPS declined to $0.98, mainly driven by lower adjusted EBITDA and higher interest expense [8][10] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Performance Services net sales increased by 18.6% organically, primarily from improved retail channel distribution [9] - Metals segment net sales declined slightly, reflecting a less favorable mix, despite higher volume and price [9] - Glass segment net sales declined, with adjusted EBITDA margin moderating due to reduced volume and price from lower end-market demand [9][10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The competitive environment for glass has not improved, leading to lower expectations for glass volume and price [4][10] - Aluminum costs increased by approximately 20% during the second quarter, impacting pricing and volume in the Metals segment [14][36] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on driving year-over-year net sales and adjusted EPS growth, primarily through Performance Services [5][16] - Strategic actions include tariff mitigation efforts and Project Fortify II to enhance organizational agility [7][16] - The company is actively pursuing M&A opportunities that align with strategic and financial objectives [7][16] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed disappointment over lowered expectations but remains optimistic about year-over-year growth in the second half of the fiscal year [5][15] - The company anticipates challenges in glass and metals due to competitive pricing pressures and rising aluminum costs [14][36] - Despite macroeconomic challenges, management is confident in the company's strong cash flow and balance sheet for future success [15][16] Other Important Information - The updated outlook for fiscal 2026 includes net sales in the range of $1.39 billion to $1.42 billion and adjusted diluted EPS in the range of $3.60 to $3.90 [10][11] - The One Big Beautiful Bill Act is expected to provide a cash tax benefit primarily impacting fiscal 2026 [11] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you expand on the organic growth in Performance Services? - Management noted strong growth in UW Solutions, particularly due to regained distribution and cross-selling opportunities [21][23] Question: What is driving the increase in services backlog? - The backlog growth was attributed to projects in the Northeast and efforts to expand into new markets [25][26] Question: What are the expectations for the glass segment's margins? - Management expects mid-teens EBITDA margins for the glass segment despite competitive pressures [32][33] Question: How is the metals segment impacted by cost pressures? - The increase in aluminum costs is the main driver of pressure in the metals segment, affecting pricing and volume [36][39] Question: What is the outlook for Performance Services' flooring mix? - The flooring segment is expected to grow and now represents over half of the UW portfolio [41]
Apogee(APOG) - 2026 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-06-27 14:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net sales increased by 4.6% to $346.6 million, primarily driven by $22 million of inorganic sales from the acquisition of UW Solutions [10][11] - Adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 9.9%, primarily due to a less favorable mix and higher aluminum costs [11] - Adjusted diluted EPS declined to $0.56, driven by lower adjusted EBITDA, higher interest expense, and a higher adjusted effective tax rate [11][12] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Metals segment net sales declined by 3.4%, with adjusted EBITDA margin decreasing to 7.3% due to a less favorable mix and higher aluminum costs [11][12] - Services segment achieved a 7.6% increase in net sales, marking its fifth consecutive quarter of growth, although adjusted EBITDA margin decreased to 5.7% due to higher tariff expenses [12] - Glass segment net sales declined, with adjusted EBITDA margin moderating due to reduced volume from lower end market demand [12] - Performance Surfaces segment saw net sales increase, driven by inorganic sales from UW Solutions, but adjusted EBITDA margin declined to 18.8% due to lower margins from UW Solutions [12] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The revenue pipeline for Glass is improving, positioning the segment for growth beginning in Q3 and Q4 [7][10] - Metals showed sequential improvement from Q4, with expectations for continued improvement in Q2 [6][11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on operational improvements and cost mitigation strategies, particularly through Project Fortify Phase two, which is expected to drive annualized savings of $13 million to $15 million [6][10] - The company is actively pursuing M&A opportunities to diversify its business mix and enhance growth prospects [8][15] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in building momentum for the second half of the fiscal year, driven by improvements in metals, growth in glass revenues, and strong organic growth in Performance Surfaces [17] - The company raised its fiscal year outlook for net sales and adjusted diluted EPS, expecting net sales in the range of $1.4 billion to $1.44 billion and adjusted diluted EPS between $3.8 and $4.2 [14][17] Other Important Information - The company is experiencing challenges due to increased tariffs but is implementing successful mitigation plans [6][10] - The balance sheet remains strong, with a consolidated leverage ratio of 1.6 and no near-term debt maturities [13] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you elaborate on the glass business and the revenue pipeline? - Management noted good visibility six months out and mentioned a pivot to smaller jobs to fill gaps due to market softness, with improved quote activity and award rates [22][24] Question: What is the outlook for segment margin targets? - Management indicated that metals and services face headwinds due to tariffs, and while they hope to reach the bottom of their target ranges, it may be challenging in the first half [28][30] Question: What is driving the sequential improvement in the metals segment? - Management highlighted operational improvements and regaining customer confidence as key factors driving sales and margin improvements [40][42] Question: What is the status of Project Fortify Phase two? - Minimal savings were seen in Q1, with more expected to materialize in Q2, particularly following the closure of a Canadian facility [45][47] Question: Can you quantify the EPS impact from tariffs in Q1? - The impact was initially estimated at $0.45 to $0.55, but was updated to $0.35 to $0.45 for the full year, with a favorable trend noted in Q1 [48][50] Question: How is the M&A pipeline being affected by the current environment? - Management stated that while M&A activity has slowed due to macro issues, they continue to focus on strategic targets identified over the past two years [63][65]