SAP (NYSE:SAP) Q4 2025 Earnings call January 29, 2026 01:00 AM ET Company ParticipantsAdam Wood - Managing DirectorAlexandra Steiger - Head of Investor RelationsChristian Klein - CEODominik Asam - CFOFrederic Boulan - Director in Equity ResearcConference Call ParticipantsBen Bernaus - Senior Equity AnalystCharles Brennan - Equity Research AnalystMark Moerdler - Senior AnalystMohammed Essaji Moawalla - Equity Research AnalystToby Ogg - Equity Research AnalystOperatorLadies and gentlemen, thank you for standi ...

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported revenues of EUR 32 billion for 2025, representing a compound annual revenue growth of 6% since 2021, within the target range of 5.5%-6.5% [2] - Pre-tax profit reached EUR 9.7 billion, and net profit was EUR 7.1 billion, with a post-tax return on tangible equity of 10.3%, meeting the full-year target of above 10% [3] - The cost-income ratio was 64%, in line with the target of below 65%, and credit loss provisions decreased to EUR 1.7 billion, down year-on-year [2][3] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Corporate Bank delivered revenue growth of over 40% since 2021, benefiting from a normalized interest rate environment and increased fee income [6] - The Investment Bank saw a 5% year-on-year increase in revenues for the fourth quarter, driven by strength in Fixed Income and Commodities (FIC) [26] - The Private Bank achieved a post-tax return on tangible equity of 10.5% for the full year, with revenues of EUR 2.4 billion, including a 10% year-on-year growth in net interest income [29] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported a strong CET1 ratio of 14.2% at year-end, despite capital headwinds, and maintained a liquidity coverage ratio of 144% [3][16] - The asset management arm, DWS, attracted EUR 85 billion of net new assets over the last four years, with assets under management surpassing EUR 1 trillion in 2025 [8] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to scale its global house bank model, focusing on growth, capital discipline, and a scalable operating model [11][12] - The strategic roadmap includes increasing post-tax return on tangible equity from 10% in 2025 to greater than 13% by 2028, and improving the cost-income ratio to below 60% [11] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the strong start to 2026 and the ability to deliver on the 2028 agenda, aiming to become the European champion in banking [12][36] - The company expects full-year revenues to increase to around EUR 33 billion in 2026, supported by growth in net interest income and net commission income [34] Other Important Information - The company proposed a EUR 1 dividend per share and a EUR 1 billion share buyback, with total distributions for 2025 reaching EUR 2.9 billion, exceeding the original target of EUR 8 billion for cumulative distributions from 2021 to 2025 [4][10] - The transition to the new CFO, Raja Akram, was noted as seamless, with management expressing gratitude for the outgoing CFO, James von Moltke's contributions [13][14] Q&A Session Summary Question: What are the expectations for revenue growth in 2026? - The company expects full-year revenues to increase to around EUR 33 billion, aided by banking book net interest income growing to EUR 14 billion [34] Question: How is the company addressing cost management? - The company maintained strict cost discipline, with non-interest expenses expected to increase slightly above EUR 21 billion in 2026, including incremental investments to unlock growth [36]

Deutsche Bank (NYSE:DB) Q4 2025 Earnings call January 29, 2026 01:00 AM ET Speaker2Thank you for joining us for our fourth quarter and full year 2025 preliminary results call. As usual, our Chief Executive Officer, Christian Sewing, will speak first, followed by Chief Financial Officer, James von Moltke. The presentation, as always, is available to download in the investor relations section of our website, db.com. Before we get started, let me just remind you that the presentation contains forward-looking s ...

SAP (NYSE:SAP) Q4 2025 Earnings call January 29, 2026 01:00 AM ET Speaker9Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome, and thank you for joining the SAP Q4 and full year 2025 earnings conference call. Throughout today's recorded presentation, all participants will be in a listen-only mode. The presentation will be followed by a question and answer session. If you would like to ask a question, you may press star, followed by one on your touchtone telephone. I would now like to turn the conferenc ...

SAP (NYSE:SAP) Q4 2025 Earnings call January 29, 2026 01:00 AM ET Speaker1Today are CEO Christian Klein and CFO Dominik Asam. On this call, we will discuss SAP's fourth quarter and full year results for 2025. You can find the deck supplementing this call, as well as our quarterly statement on our website investor relations website. During this call, we will make forward-looking statements, which are predictions, projections, or other statements about future events. These statements are based on current expe ...

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q4 2025, automotive margins, excluding credits, improved sequentially from 15.4% to 17.9% despite a 16% decrease in deliveries [21] - Total gross margin ended the quarter at over 20.1%, a level not achieved in the last two years, despite lower fixed cost absorption and over $500 million in tariffs [24] - Net income was negatively impacted by a 23% depreciation in Bitcoin holdings and unfavorable foreign exchange effects [25] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Automotive gross profit remained flat sequentially despite lower deliveries, primarily due to a favorable regional mix with more deliveries in APAC and EMEA [21] - Energy segment achieved nearly $12.8 billion in revenue with a year-over-year growth of 26.6%, driven by high deployments of Megapack and Powerwall [22] - Services and others margin declined from 10.5% to 8.8% due to higher employee-related costs in service centers [23] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Record deliveries were noted in smaller countries like Malaysia, Norway, Poland, Saudi Arabia, and Taiwan, contributing to a larger backlog than in recent years [20] - The energy team reported strong growth rates and continued demand for energy products, indicating a robust market outlook [12] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is transitioning to a subscription-based model for Full Self-Driving (FSD), which is expected to impact automotive margins in the short term [21] - Significant investments are planned for 2026, with CapEx expected to exceed $20 billion, focusing on six factories and expanding production capacity [26][27] - The company aims to replace the Model S and X production lines with a factory for Optimus robots, targeting a production goal of 1 million units per year [7][14] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the future, emphasizing a shift towards autonomy and the potential for universal high income driven by advancements in AI and robotics [2][4] - The company is cautious about the rollout of unsupervised FSD, ensuring safety while gradually increasing autonomy capabilities [54][55] - Management acknowledged the challenges posed by increased low-cost competition and policy uncertainties affecting margins in the energy sector [22] Other Important Information - The company is making substantial investments in AI chips and solar cell manufacturing, indicating a long-term strategic focus on these areas [5][13] - The transition to a fully autonomous vehicle market is expected to significantly alter the transportation landscape, with the Cybercab model designed specifically for this purpose [30][34] Q&A Session Summary Question: What is Tesla's view on the future global car sales and its impact on EV strategy? - Tesla believes that autonomy and Cybercab will significantly change the global market size and mix, with a focus on efficiency and manufacturing at scale [28][29] Question: Are there plans to launch new models for different price segments? - Tesla has launched its least expensive models recently and continues to expand globally, aiming to provide a premium ride experience with the Cybercab [34][35] Question: What is the current bottleneck for increasing robotaxi deployment? - The company is learning from the scaled robotaxi service and is focused on solving the unsupervised FSD problem while expanding the fleet size [41][42] Question: What are the constraints on memory procurement? - Tesla's AI is designed to be compute and memory efficient, and the company is confident in its ability to manage memory constraints in the near term [91][92]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenue for the quarter was $81.3 billion, up 17% year-over-year and 15% in constant currency [25] - Gross margin dollars increased by 16% and operating income rose by 21% [25] - Earnings per share was $4.14, reflecting a 24% increase year-over-year [25] - Company gross margin percentage was 68%, slightly down year-over-year due to investments in AI infrastructure [26] - Operating expenses increased by 5%, driven by R&D investments [26] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Microsoft Cloud revenue reached $51.5 billion, growing 26% year-over-year [31] - Productivity and Business Processes revenue was $34.1 billion, up 16% year-over-year [31] - M365 Commercial Cloud revenue increased by 17%, with paid M365 commercial seats growing 6% to over 450 million [32] - Intelligent Cloud segment revenue was $32.9 billion, growing 29% year-over-year [33] - More Personal Computing revenue declined by 3% to $14.3 billion [36] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Commercial bookings increased by 230%, driven by large Azure commitments from OpenAI [30] - Commercial remaining performance obligation (RPO) increased to $625 billion, up 110% year-over-year [30] - Azure revenue grew by 39%, slightly ahead of expectations [34] - LinkedIn revenue increased by 11%, driven by marketing solutions [24] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on AI diffusion and its impact on GDP, with significant investments in AI infrastructure [6] - Microsoft aims to build a comprehensive AI business that integrates across its platforms, enhancing customer experiences [10] - The strategy includes expanding sovereignty solutions to meet local data residency needs [9] - The company is investing in both first-party and third-party AI models to enhance its offerings [11] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the growth of AI and its integration into various business lines, emphasizing the importance of infrastructure investments [6][9] - The company anticipates continued strong demand across its cloud services, with a focus on balancing supply and demand [34] - Management highlighted the importance of long-term investments in R&D and product innovation to drive future growth [50] Other Important Information - Capital expenditures for the quarter were $37.5 billion, with a significant portion allocated to short-lived assets like GPUs and CPUs [27] - The company returned $12.7 billion to shareholders through dividends and share repurchases, a 32% increase year-over-year [29] - The company is seeing strong momentum in its Copilot offerings, with significant increases in daily active users and paid seats [18] Q&A Session Summary Question: Concerns about CapEx growth and Azure revenue - Management acknowledged the correlation between CapEx and Azure revenue, emphasizing long-term investments in infrastructure to meet demand [48][50] Question: Line of sight from hardware CapEx to revenue and margins - Management clarified that much of the capital spent is already contracted for the useful life of the hardware, reducing risk [60][61] Question: Durability of OpenAI-related backlog - Management expressed confidence in the breadth and diversification of their RPO, highlighting strong growth across various customer segments [68] Question: Capacity additions and their impact - Management confirmed ongoing efforts to add capacity globally, emphasizing the need for efficient operations across multiple locations [75] Question: Performance of Maia 200 accelerator - Management highlighted the significance of silicon innovation and its role in enhancing performance and cost efficiency for AI workloads [80]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q4 2025, total revenue and adjusted gross profit (AGP) declined approximately 7% and 4% year-over-year, respectively [32][39] - The AGP decline was primarily driven by a 13% year-over-year decline in Global Forwarding's AGP due to a significant drop in ocean rates [32][39] - Personnel expenses in Q4 were $337 million, including $15.2 million of restructuring charges, while excluding these charges, personnel expenses were down 8.2% year-over-year [33][34] - The effective tax rate for Q4 was 18.1%, with a full-year tax rate of 18.7% expected to be in the range of 18%-20% for 2026 [38] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In North American Surface Transportation (NAST), truckload volume rose approximately 3% year-over-year, while LTL volume increased approximately 0.5% year-over-year, reflecting market share gains [14][32] - Global Forwarding expanded gross margins by 100 basis points year-over-year through improved revenue management [7] - NAST AGP margin improved by 20 basis points year-over-year despite market pressures [6] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Cass Freight Shipment Index declined year-over-year for the thirteenth consecutive quarter, marking the lowest Q4 reading since the financial crisis of 2009 [4] - Spot market costs for truckload capacity spiked during the last five weeks of Q4 due to seasonal capacity decline and winter storms [4][17] - Dry van load-to-truck ratios increased to approximately 10 to 1, compared to 6 to 1 during the same period in 2024 [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on controlling what it can, including providing differentiated service and solutions, executing with discipline, and continuously improving its business model [5][8] - The Lean AI strategy aims to enhance automation and improve customer outcomes while maintaining industry-leading operating margins [9][30] - The company is committed to building a scalable model that leverages AI to drive automation across its operations [9][30] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged the challenging macro environment in Q4, including weak global freight demand and rising costs [4][32] - The company remains confident in its ability to execute strategic initiatives and improve operating leverage when freight demand eventually increases [9][22] - Management emphasized the importance of their lean operating model in navigating market challenges and driving sustainable growth [42][43] Other Important Information - The company generated $305.4 million in cash from operations in Q4 and ended the quarter with approximately $1.49 billion of liquidity [39][40] - The company returned approximately $207.7 million of cash to shareholders in Q4 through share repurchases and dividends [40] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you provide perspective on Q1 and AGP growth? - Management noted that December was challenging due to ocean rate normalization and that cost pressures carried into January, but they remain committed to demonstrating outperformance in Q1 [50][51] Question: What are the expectations for operating margins in NAST for 2027? - Management indicated they are on a good trajectory to reach mid-cycle margins of 40% for NAST, with decisions on margin expansion versus growth to be made based on market conditions [53][54] Question: How does the company balance headcount reductions with maintaining service quality? - Management stated that headcount is not a KPI and emphasized engineering the business to focus on customer service while optimizing organizational structure [82]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q4 2025, automotive margins, excluding credits, improved sequentially from 15.4% to 17.9% despite a 16% decrease in deliveries, primarily due to a favorable regional mix with more deliveries in APAC and EMEA [21] - Total gross margin ended the quarter at over 20.1%, a level not achieved in the last two years, despite lower fixed cost absorption and over $500 million in tariffs impacting results [24] - Net income was negatively impacted by a 23% depreciation in Bitcoin holdings and unfavorable foreign exchange impacts [25] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Automotive gross profit remained flat sequentially, while FSD adoption improved, reaching nearly 1.1 million paid customers globally, with 70% being upfront purchases [21][22] - Energy segment achieved record gross profit for the quarter, ending the year with nearly $12.8 billion in revenue, reflecting a 26.6% year-over-year growth driven by high deployments of Megapack and Powerwall [22] - Services and Others margin declined from 10.5% to 8.8% due to higher employee-related costs, although there was an improvement in margins from the Supercharging business [23] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Record deliveries were noted in smaller countries like Malaysia, Norway, Poland, Saudi Arabia, and Taiwan, contributing to a larger backlog than in recent years [20] - Continued strength in demand was observed in the rest of APAC and EMEA, with the energy team achieving high growth rates [20][22] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is making significant investments in AI, robotics, and battery supply chains, with a focus on transitioning to an autonomous future [4][7] - Plans to end production of Model S and X to repurpose factory space for Optimus robot production, aiming for a long-term goal of 1 million units per year [7][13] - The company is transitioning to a subscription-based model for FSD, which may impact automotive margins in the short term [22] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the future, highlighting the potential for universal high income driven by advancements in AI and robotics [2][3] - The company anticipates significant growth in the energy sector and plans to ramp up solar cell production to 100 gigawatts per year [12][13] - Management acknowledged the challenges posed by increased low-cost competition and policy uncertainties affecting margins [22] Other Important Information - The company expects capital expenditures to exceed $20 billion in 2026, driven by investments in multiple factories and AI infrastructure [26][27] - The company has over $44 billion in cash and investments, which will be utilized for funding the upcoming investments [81] Q&A Session Summary Question: What is Tesla's view on the future global car sales and its impact on EV strategy? - Management indicated that the future is autonomous, and the introduction of Cybercab will significantly change the market size and mix, with expectations of increased production volumes [28][29] Question: Are there plans to launch new models for different price segments? - Management confirmed ongoing efforts to launch less expensive models and expand globally, aiming to provide a premium ride experience through Cybercab [34][35] Question: What are the current bottlenecks for robotaxi deployment? - Management noted that scaling the robotaxi service has been a learning process, with unsupervised service recently launched in Austin, and emphasized the importance of infrastructure in supporting growth [41][44] Question: What is the current status of Optimus robots in production? - Management stated that Optimus is still in the R&D phase, with basic tasks being performed in factories, and significant production volume is not expected until later in the year [49][50] Question: What is the strategy for chip production and potential external sales? - Management highlighted the need for a Tesla Terafab to ensure sufficient chip production capacity, emphasizing the importance of domestic manufacturing to mitigate geopolitical risks [66][70]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported a total revenue decline of approximately 7% year-over-year in Q4 2025, with adjusted gross profit (AGP) down about 4% year-over-year [32][39] - The AGP decline was primarily driven by a 13% year-over-year decrease in Global Forwarding's AGP due to falling ocean rates and market imbalances [32][33] - Personnel expenses in Q4 were $337 million, including $15.2 million in restructuring charges, while excluding these charges, personnel expenses were down 8.2% year-over-year [33][34] - The company generated $305.4 million in cash from operations in Q4 and ended the quarter with approximately $1.49 billion in liquidity [39][40] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In North American Surface Transportation (NAST), total volume grew by 1% year-over-year, with truckload volume increasing by approximately 3% [6][12] - Global Forwarding expanded gross margins by 100 basis points year-over-year through improved revenue management [7] - The company achieved double-digit productivity increases in NAST for the full year and a high single-digit productivity increase in Global Forwarding [7][19] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Cass Freight Shipment Index declined year-over-year for the thirteenth consecutive quarter, marking the lowest Q4 reading since the financial crisis of 2009 [4][12] - Spot market costs for truckload capacity spiked during the last five weeks of Q4 due to seasonal capacity declines and winter storms [4][17] - The dry van load-to-truck ratio increased to approximately 10 to 1, compared to 6 to 1 during the same period in 2024 [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on a Lean AI strategy, which combines lean operating models with advanced technology to improve service and operational efficiency [9][30] - The management emphasized the importance of controlling internal factors, such as service differentiation and cost management, to navigate challenging market conditions [5][8] - The company aims to continue expanding its operating leverage and market share, particularly when freight demand eventually increases [9][22] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged the challenging macroeconomic environment but expressed confidence in the company's ability to manage through it better than in the past [4][32] - The company expects Q1 to be seasonally weaker compared to Q4, with a typical decline in the Cass Freight Shipment Index of about 2.3% [21] - Management remains optimistic about the future, indicating that the next two years could be more exciting than the previous two [46] Other Important Information - The company returned approximately $207.7 million to shareholders in Q4 through share repurchases and dividends [40] - The effective tax rate for Q4 was 18.1%, with expectations for the full year tax rate in 2026 to be between 18% and 20% [38] Q&A Session Summary Question: Insights on Q1 performance and AGP growth - Management noted that December was challenging due to ocean rate normalization and that spot rate cost pressures carried into January, but they remain committed to demonstrating outperformance in Q1 [48][51] Question: Long-term margin and volume growth expectations - Management discussed the importance of balancing margin expansion with market share growth, indicating that they are on track to achieve mid-cycle margin targets [49][54] Question: Understanding the Lean Operating Model - Management explained that their Lean AI strategy integrates people, technology, and a unique operating model, which allows for rapid innovation and competitive advantage [65][67] Question: Managing headcount reductions while maintaining service quality - Management clarified that headcount is not a KPI and emphasized their focus on engineering the business to optimize service without compromising quality [81]