CS Disco (LAW) Q2 2025 Earnings Call August 06, 2025 05:00 PM ET Speaker0Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by, and welcome to CS DISCO's Second Quarter Fiscal Year twenty twenty five Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen only mode. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question and answer session. I would now like to hand the conference over to your first speaker today, Head of Investor Relations, ...

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Second quarter revenue was approximately flat at $48.9 million, reflecting an 8.4% decrease in procedure revenue, partially offset by over 30% sales growth in dietary supplements [13][14] - Gross profit margin improved to 71.6%, a 280 basis point increase, primarily due to cost savings from vertical integration [14] - Selling, general and administrative expenses decreased by 12.2% to $24.2 million, influenced by the timing of the annual marketing event and headcount adjustments [15] - Net income was $3.9 million, compared to a net loss of $10.4 million in the previous year, with diluted earnings per share of $0.10 [15][16] - Adjusted EBITDA increased by 19.1% to $15.2 million, with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 31.1% [16] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Procedure revenue experienced an 8.4% decline, attributed to slower growth in new clinic additions, higher attrition rates, and lower procedure volumes [13][14] - Dietary supplement revenue increased by 30.4% to $10.7 million, driven primarily by growth in the e-commerce channel [14] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company anticipates high single-digit declines in procedure revenue for the full year, while dietary supplement growth is expected at approximately mid-teens percentage rate [18] - The company is adjusting its fiscal 2025 revenue guidance to above $190 million, reflecting the impacts of ongoing organizational restructuring [18] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is undergoing a strategic organizational restructuring aimed at driving sustainable growth, focusing on three key objectives: accelerating new provider wins, strengthening relationships with existing practitioners, and improving financial performance [7][8] - New leadership has been brought in to enhance commercial productivity and instill a high-performance culture [9][10] - The company is focused on capturing a larger share of the hormone replacement therapy and therapeutic wellness markets [10] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged that the organizational changes have been disruptive, particularly affecting procedure-related sales, but expressed confidence in the long-term growth strategy [12][13] - The company is committed to excellence and aims to achieve a higher level of operational and financial performance despite the challenges faced in 2025 [20] Other Important Information - Cash flow from operations for the second quarter was $7.1 million, with cash and cash equivalents at $19.6 million as of June 30, 2025, down from $41.7 million at the end of the previous quarter [17] Q&A Session Summary Question: Progress on verticalization process - Management indicated that penetration is currently in the low 40% range and plans to resume efforts to increase this in Q3 [22][23] Question: Absolute number of procedures down in the quarter - Management noted that headwinds include clinic attrition and lower volumes within existing clinics, which have been ongoing since the launch of the clinical decision support software [25][26] Question: Factors needed for metrics to turn around - Management expressed optimism that recent changes will lead to improved metrics, but it is too early to predict specific outcomes [28][30] Question: Drivers of faster attrition - Management clarified that GLP-1s are not impacting procedure revenue and attributed the headwinds to the launch of the clinical decision support software and organizational changes [36][37] Question: Changes in new clinic additions - Management acknowledged a slowdown in new starts and emphasized the need for improved retention and new clinic additions to drive growth [42][43] Question: Changes in sales force and marketing - Management highlighted that restructuring has focused on growth targets and accountability, with a revamped compensation plan to incentivize growth [48][49]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company generated a 2.2% year-over-year increase in total revenue to $55 million for Q2 2025, attributed to new restaurant openings [15][61] - Cost of goods sold as a percentage of restaurant sales increased by 97 basis points to 33.8% in Q2 2025, reflecting inflationary cost increases and more new restaurants in operation [16][61] - The company reported a net loss before income taxes of $1.8 million, equating to $0.05 per diluted share, compared to a net income of $2.1 million or $0.06 per diluted share in Q2 2024 [18][63] - Adjusted net income was $1.2 million or $0.04 per diluted share in Q2 2025, down from $4.4 million or $0.13 per share in the same period last year [19][64] - Restaurant level adjusted EBITDA was 16.3% for Q2 2025, an increase of 70 basis points from the previous year [20][65] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company opened seven new restaurants in 2025, with a total of nine new restaurants opened year-to-date, on pace to exceed the target of 12 to 13 new stores [5][51] - The average unit volume (AUV) revenue is $5.3 million per restaurant, which is considered elite in the casual dining space [9][53] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company experienced a sharp downturn in customer traffic in April due to global tariffs and immigration policies affecting regions with a large Hispanic customer base, which accounts for 35 of its 52 restaurants [6][52] - Improvements in sales and costs were noted starting in July, indicating a recovery from the downturn [8][52] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on a value-oriented experimental dining model, which is believed to resonate with guests and support long-term growth [5][50] - Plans for international expansion include additional restaurant openings in South Korea, with the first store opened in a suburb of Seoul [5][50] - The company is enhancing its product offerings, including gift cards and packaged products, to diversify revenue streams beyond restaurant sales [12][58] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged ongoing macro pressures but expressed confidence in the company's growth strategy and operational efficiencies [4][5] - The company is implementing automation and AI tools to improve labor efficiency and overall margins [36][83] - Management remains committed to their guidance of 17% to 18% on four-wall margins despite recent challenges [81][82] Other Important Information - As of June 30, 2025, the company had $9.6 million in cash and cash equivalents, with only $7 million in long-term bank debt [20][66] - The balance sheet reflects $166 million in lease liabilities, offset by $142 million in operating lease assets, indicating no material debt [21][67] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you quantify the same store sales progression throughout the quarter and the improvement seen in July? - Management noted a significant decline in sales during April, May, and June, with a bounce back in July, aided by a 2.8% price increase at the beginning of the year [25][28][73] Question: How have the new units from Q1 been performing, and what is the status of the South Korea location? - The new openings from Q1 are performing at an average level, while the South Korea location is seeing slow but improving sales [29][30][76] Question: What is the tracking of premium menu adoption and its implications for COGS? - Management indicated a COGS differential of 0.5% to 1% with an expected sales increase of 5% to 7% as premium menu items are rolled out [31][32][77] Question: Any updates on guidance for revenue and four-wall margin? - Management confirmed that projections for 17% to 18% on four-wall margins remain unchanged despite the challenging quarter [35][81] Question: What operational efficiencies are being implemented to offset macro challenges? - The company is deploying automation and AI tools to enhance labor efficiency, expecting to see benefits in margins in the upcoming quarters [36][83] Question: Is the quality of general managers the biggest challenge to accelerating unit development? - Management stated that the challenge is multifaceted, including the need for quality managers, real estate, and capital [37][85]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported Q2 2025 revenue of $111.8 million, representing a year-over-year growth of 12% [5][28] - Non-GAAP operating margin expanded by almost 400 basis points to 9.2% [5][27] - Non-GAAP free cash flow for the quarter was $5.2 million, an increase of 110% year-over-year [27][28] - Remaining performance obligations (RPO) totaled $347 million, up 18% year-over-year [29] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Subscription revenue was $111.1 million, reflecting a 13% year-over-year increase [28] - The number of customers contributing more than $50,000 in annual recurring revenue (ARR) grew by 18% year-over-year [28] - The average contract value (ACV) for Q2 was $15,321, up 14% year-over-year [28] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company secured strategic wins with global brands such as Honda, Cigna, and the U.S. Department of Transportation, indicating strong market presence [6][38] - The company earned 164 Leader Badges in G2's reports, showcasing its competitive positioning in the market [6] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The acquisition of Newswhip is seen as a pivotal milestone to enhance AI-powered predictive media intelligence capabilities [8][9] - The company aims to deepen customer engagement through use case expansion and premium modules [21][23] - The strategy focuses on winning enterprise customers, improving customer health and adoption, and expanding partnerships [13][21] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the core business performance and noted strong retention and renewal rates [38][71] - The company anticipates some near-term pressure on rep productivity due to the integration of Newswhip [33] - Management highlighted the importance of social media as a channel for product discovery, especially among Gen Z consumers [25][102] Other Important Information - The company launched several product innovations, including enhancements in influencer marketing and customer care [14][16] - The company is expanding partnerships with key networks to enhance its capabilities [21] Q&A Session Summary Question: How would you characterize the core business today? - Management noted strong performance and progress, with significant wins and growth in the enterprise customer segment [38] Question: What is the impact of Newswhip on guidance? - Management projected Newswhip to contribute approximately $2.5 million over the final five months of the year, taking a cautious approach to guidance [41] Question: What is the timeline for integrating Newswhip? - Management indicated that integration efforts are underway, with positive initial feedback from customers [48] Question: How are rising advertising costs affecting customer strategies? - Management noted that customers are increasingly looking to social media for discovery due to disruptions in traditional search [60] Question: What are the trends in the international market? - Management acknowledged that while international business is smaller, there is strong potential for growth and pipeline development [85]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The debt investment portfolio grew to $663 million at cost, marking the highest level of funding activity in the last ten quarters [6][21] - Total investment income for Q2 was $23.3 million with a portfolio yield of 14.5%, down from $27.1 million and 15.8% in the prior year [24] - Net investment income for Q2 was $11.3 million or $0.28 per share, compared to $12.6 million or $0.33 per share for the previous year [25] - The company's net increase in net assets resulting from operations was $13.2 million or $0.33 per share, compared to $8.6 million or $0.22 per share for the prior year [26] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q2, the company funded $79 million in debt investments, up from $28 million in the prior quarter [21][15] - The weighted average annualized portfolio yield for funded investments was 12.3%, down from 13.3% in Q1 [16] - Loan prepayments totaled $44 million during the quarter, impacting overall portfolio yield [16] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Venture growth stage investments reached $84 billion across approximately 499 deals in 2025, with a notable increase in M&A and IPO activity [7] - The company held warrants in 106 companies and equity investments in 52 companies, with a total fair value of $127 million, primarily due to a markup in holdings in Revolut [17] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to increase scale, durability, and income-generating assets while focusing on sectors like AI, verticalized software, FinTech, and health tech [5][9] - A discretionary share program was announced to acquire up to $14 million of the company's outstanding shares, enhancing alignment with shareholders [11] - The regular quarterly distribution was reduced to $0.23 per share to better align with funding levels and prepayment activity [12] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management noted that while uncertainties remain in the venture capital market, investment activity continued to surge, particularly in the AI space [7] - The expectation is that portfolio growth will take longer due to prepayment activity and the rate of utilization of underfunded commitments [11] - Future refinancing plans are being considered to optimize the capital structure in light of upcoming debt maturities [28] Other Important Information - The company ended the quarter with total liquidity of $313 million, consisting of cash and available capacity under its revolving credit facility [21] - The leverage ratio stood at 1.22x, with net leverage at 1.04x after accounting for cash [23] Q&A Session Summary Question: Outlook for fundings and expectations for Q3 and Q4 - Management indicated that lower utilization of historical unfunded commitments and seasonality are factors affecting funding expectations, with Q4 expected to be busier [30][31] Question: Stock buybacks and capital allocation - The company is considering capital allocation strategies, including potential stock buybacks, while prioritizing financial flexibility [32] Question: Elevated repayment activity and future expectations - Elevated repayment activity is attributed to robust equity funding from portfolio companies, with expectations for a slowdown in prepayment activity in 2026 [36][38]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company reported Q2 revenue of $416 million, representing a 28% increase year-over-year, or $91 million more than the same quarter last year [28] - Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $89 million, reflecting a 37% increase, or $24 million more than Q2 of the previous year [31] - Adjusted EPS was $0.26, up from $0.19, marking a 37% increase year-over-year [37] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Company-operated same shop sales growth was 7.8%, with 5.9% attributed to transaction growth [31] - System same shop sales growth was 6.1%, driven by a 3.7% increase in transactions [29] - The company opened 31 new shops in Q2, bringing the total system shop count to 1,043 [30] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - System-wide average unit volumes (AUVs) were $2,050,000, consistent with record levels [9] - Approximately 72% of system transactions were attributed to the loyalty program, a five-point increase from the same period last year [19] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to open at least 160 new shops in 2025, with a long-term goal of reaching 2,029 shops by 2029 [14] - A focus on transaction-driving initiatives includes enhancing category-wide innovation, increasing paid advertising, and emphasizing the Dutch rewards program [15] - The company is expanding its competitive advantages through strategic investments in market planning and operational efficiency [14][15] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the company's growth trajectory, citing strong performance and a robust operator pipeline [12][25] - The company is well-positioned to capture additional market share, driven by rising demand for cold beverages and energy drinks [27] - Management raised full-year guidance for total revenues, same shop sales growth, and adjusted EBITDA based on strong Q2 results [39] Other Important Information - The company successfully refinanced its credit facility, securing $650 million in total capacity, enhancing liquidity for long-term growth [37] - Labor costs were 26.6% of company-operated shop revenue, showing a favorable year-over-year change due to sales leverage [34] Q&A Session Summary Question: CPG strategy for next year - Management indicated that the CPG rollout will focus on areas where shops are located, with early rollout expected in 2026 [42][43] Question: Update on speed and throughput initiatives - Management noted ongoing efforts in labor deployment and the introduction of speed dashboards to improve throughput [48][49] Question: Market specifics on new shop productivity - New shop productivity remains elevated, with strong results across various markets, including a new shop in Georgia [51][52] Question: Innovation and resource allocation - Management described innovation as a mix of art and science, focusing on customer testing and market trends to maintain competitive advantage [54][56] Question: Mobile order mix expectations - The mobile order mix is currently at 11.5%, with some newer markets exceeding this average, and management is optimistic about future growth [60][61] Question: Food program rollout decision - The phased rollout of the food program is to ensure proper training and equipment installation in shops [65][66] Question: Q3 performance and marketing strategy - Management confirmed strong underlying traffic trends entering Q3, with plans for a more normalized marketing approach [71][72] Question: Mobile order contribution to transaction growth - Mobile order is driving transaction growth, particularly in the morning daypart, with a focus on enhancing customer experience [78][80] Question: Marketing spend efficiency - Management is currently on the lower end of marketing spend as a percentage of sales but sees potential for increased efficiency [92][95]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenue increased sequentially by $817,000 to $18,700,000, but decreased by 13% compared to the prior year [7][18] - Gross profit rose by $1,800,000 from Q1 and $2,100,000 year over year, with gross margin expanding to 26.1% [7][19] - Adjusted EBITDA showed a loss of $335,000 for the quarter, which is a sequential improvement of $131,000 but fell short by $53,000 compared to the prior year [7][22] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Tubular segment has been fully divested, with only the idle facility in Munhall remaining as a financial drag [4] - The company is now a pure play specialty chemical company, focusing on higher margin opportunities and operational efficiencies [5][10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The broader chemical market has shown softness, with manufacturing activity remaining below expansion territory, impacting overall demand [18][19] - Despite a 29.6% year-over-year decline in volume, pricing actions have helped mitigate some of the impacts [20] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focused on organic and inorganic growth, with a disciplined approach to capital allocation and share repurchases [6][22] - A significant increase in the selling project pipeline by $25,000,000 indicates a strong focus on higher value commercial engagements [12][30] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving adjusted EBITDA margins of 15% by targeting $120,000,000 to $130,000,000 in revenue [28] - The company aims to maintain momentum through disciplined execution and capital stewardship, with expectations for continued improvement in profitability [23][41] Other Important Information - The company ended Q2 with $60,500,000 in cash, no debt, and $13,400,000 available under its revolver, indicating a strong financial position [22] - The share buyback program is not linked to any equity compensation plan but reflects the belief in the company's undervaluation [32] Q&A Session Summary Question: What revenue number is contemplated for the 2030 adjusted EBITDA margin target? - Management is confident in reaching $120,000,000 to $130,000,000 in revenue within the existing asset base [28] Question: How should the near to intermediate term new business pipeline be quantified? - The selling project pipeline increased by $25,000,000, spread across various market segments, indicating a mix of product sales and custom manufacturing [30] Question: Has the executive management equity compensation plan been presented to the board? - The share buyback was based on the belief that the company is undervalued, not related to any equity program for senior leaders [32] Question: What catalysts are expected for a rerating of the company? - Growth is seen as the primary catalyst, with a focus on both organic and inorganic growth [38] Question: Is a return to profitability expected in the near term? - Management is targeting profitability, excluding the Munhall aspect, and is optimistic about achieving this [41] Question: Will the company consider acquisitions in the future? - The company is looking for smaller transactions that can demonstrate growth synergies before pursuing larger acquisitions [46][58] Question: What multiples are expected for potential acquisitions? - The company aims to acquire assets at a lower end of the 6 to 8 times EBITDA range, focusing on disciplined growth [56][60]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - The company facilitated 26,522 certified loans in Q2 2025, down from 28,963 in Q2 2024 and 27,638 in Q1 2025, attributed to seasonality and tightened lending standards [10][25] - Total revenue for Q2 2025 was $25.3 million, including an $8.3 million reduction in estimated profit share revenue associated with new originations [25][26] - Operating expenses increased to $18.6 million in Q2 2025 from $17 million in Q2 2024, representing a 9% year-over-year increase [28][29] - Net income for Q2 2025 was $1 million compared to $2.9 million in Q2 2024, with diluted net income per share at $0.01 versus $0.02 in the prior year [29][30] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Program fee revenues were $14.9 million, profit share revenue was $8 million, and claims administration fee and other revenue was $2.4 million in Q2 2025 [26] - Profit share revenue associated with new originations was $7.7 million or $289 per certified loan, down from $16 million or $552 per certified loan in Q2 2024 [27] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - The total assets of the company at the end of Q2 2025 were $296.7 million, with $230.7 million in unrestricted cash [30] - The total loan growth in federally insured credit unions saw a year-over-year increase of 3.64% [22] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company is focusing on four strategic priorities: profitable unit economics, improved customer retention, streamlined operations, and a culture of accountability [5][21] - The company aims to transition to an expense structure supported by program and TPA fees by 2026, targeting profitability based on profit share components [19][33] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about the company's direction, indicating that 2026 will demonstrate the full financial impact of current initiatives [4][32] - The company is actively monitoring credit union health and macroeconomic conditions to identify growth opportunities [21][22] Other Important Information - The company announced the early extension of its agreement with AmTrust, reflecting strong partnership confidence [7][33] - Massimo Monaco was appointed as the new CFO, effective August 18, 2025, bringing over two decades of experience in lending and financial services [23][24] Q&A Session Summary Question: What drove the early extension with AmTrust? - Management indicated that AmTrust approached the company for the extension, signaling strong partnership support [36][37] Question: Is the positive profit share CIE a sign that negative adjustments are behind? - Management noted that while there are always minor fluctuations, the positive adjustment is a good sign, supported by lower claim frequencies and increased used vehicle values [39][40] Question: What factors are affecting the Q3 certified loan guidance? - Management explained that the decrease in OEM business due to tighter underwriting standards is a significant factor, while credit union demand remains strong [42][43]

Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consolidated revenues for Q2 2025 were $1,110 million, representing a 4% year-over-year decrease, primarily due to decreased revenue in the Active Lifestyle segment [29] - Q2 adjusted EBITDA was $196 million, a 5% year-over-year decrease, mainly due to decreased revenue and incremental tariffs [30] - The company raised its full-year revenue guidance to a range of $3,800 million to $3,920 million, reflecting an increase of over $30 million at the midpoint compared to prior guidance [35] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Golf equipment revenue for Q2 was approximately flat year-over-year at $412 million, exceeding expectations [30] - Active Lifestyle segment revenue decreased by $36 million year-over-year to $214 million, primarily due to the sale of Jack Wolfskin and soft market conditions [31] - Topgolf Q2 revenue decreased by 2% year-over-year, primarily due to a 6% decline in same venue sales, partially offset by higher revenue from new venues [32] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Market conditions in the U.S. for golf equipment remain healthy, with rounds played approximately flat on a playable hour adjusted basis [8] - Conditions in the UK and Northern Europe markets are strong, while Asia and Central Europe are softer year-over-year [9] - The athleisure category in the Active Lifestyle segment is down mid to high single digits during Q2 [11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company closed the sale of Jack Wolfskin, enabling greater business focus and financial flexibility for Topgolf [4] - The company is committed to ongoing cost reduction and margin improvement initiatives, which have been beneficial in the current operating environment [6] - The strategic process for Topgolf is ongoing, with both a spin and sale being evaluated, although a spin is now impractical for the second half of the year [15][80] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in the golf equipment segment, citing healthy consumer engagement and upcoming product launches [10] - The company is optimistic about the improving trends in same venue sales at Topgolf, driven by value initiatives and enhanced customer experience [12][39] - Management acknowledged the challenges posed by tariffs, increasing the estimated impact from $25 million to $40 million for the year [5][45] Other Important Information - The company reported an increase in available liquidity to $1,160 million as of June 30, 2025, primarily due to cash proceeds from the sale of Jack Wolfskin [32] - Net debt decreased to $2,390 million, down from $2,620 million year-over-year, reflecting improved cash balances [33] - The company expects to be free cash flow positive at both the total company and Topgolf in 2025 [38] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you talk about the robust process regarding the spin and sale of Topgolf? - Management confirmed that the strategic direction remains unchanged, with only the timing of a potential spin being affected due to leadership changes [42][80] Question: What is the current health of the golf industry and drivers of the improving golf equipment business? - Management noted that the golf equipment business remains healthy, with consumer engagement strong and sell-through up low single digits [49] Question: What were the biggest contributors to the value initiatives at Topgolf? - Management highlighted the success of the Sunday Fun Pass and other value offerings, which significantly increased traffic and improved customer perception [57] Question: Can you provide an update on cost reduction efforts and labor efficiency initiatives? - Management indicated that teams have executed well on cost reduction, with improvements in labor efficiency and service speed contributing to stable margins [66] Question: How is the TravisMathew business trending? - Management reported that while the athleisure market is down, the women's category within TravisMathew continues to perform well [72]

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