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CNO Financial Group(CNO) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-29 16:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - CNO Financial Group reported operating earnings per diluted share of $0.87, benefiting from favorable insurance product margins and solid investment results [7][22] - Book value per diluted share, excluding AOCI, increased by 6% to $38.5 [8] - The company returned $117 million to shareholders in the quarter and $234 million year-to-date [8][22] - Operating return on equity was 11.8% to 12.1% on a trailing twelve-month basis, with a target of around 10.5% for the full year 2025 [23][29] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - The Consumer division achieved record total new annualized premiums of $120 million, up 17%, with double-digit growth in both divisions [7][10] - Annuity collected premiums surpassed $500 million for the first time in a single quarter, driven by 19% growth [11] - Life and Health NAP posted double-digit growth of 17%, with total life insurance up 20% and direct-to-consumer life insurance sales up 29% [13][14] - Worksite life and health NAP increased by 16%, with life insurance sales up 54% [17][18] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Client assets in brokerage and advisory rose by 27% to $4.6 billion, with new accounts up 13% [12] - The market value of invested assets grew by 5% in the quarter, with 96% of the fixed maturity portfolio rated investment grade [28] Company Strategy and Development Direction - CNO aims to serve the growing needs of the middle-income market with diverse products and distribution channels [31] - The company is focused on improving return on equity and delivering consistent, repeatable results [31][32] - Investments in technology are enhancing customer experience and operational efficiency [17][21] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in sustained profitable growth and the ability to navigate the evolving economic environment [31][32] - The company anticipates continued strong sales momentum and improved profitability in the second half of the year [31] Other Important Information - CNO reaffirmed its 2025 guidance, lowering the upper bound of the expense ratio range to 19.2% from 19.4% [29] - The company is engaged in discussions with regulators regarding opportunities with its Bermuda operation [97][98] Q&A Session Summary Question: Can you provide more color on the momentum from the web digital piece of direct-to-consumer sales? - Management noted strong growth in direct-to-consumer sales, particularly from web and digital channels, which were up 39% year-over-year [36][37] Question: Can you discuss the expense experience in the quarter and the change in guidance? - Management indicated that expenses were generally in line with expectations, with a better expense ratio reflecting improved operating leverage [52] Question: What is the claims experience for long-term care? - Management reported a continuation of favorable claims experience, with expectations for LTC claims to trend closer to pre-COVID levels [54] Question: How diversified is the mix of carriers for Medicare Advantage? - Management confirmed a diversified mix of about 20 carriers, with no concentration risk, and expressed confidence in the demand for both Medicare Supplement and Medicare Advantage products [66][68] Question: What is the outlook for annuity sales and spreads? - Management indicated that while strong sales are expected to continue, comparable conditions may become tougher, and spreads have remained stable [70][73]
CNO Financial Group(CNO) - 2025 Q2 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-07-29 16:00
CNO Financial Group (CNO) Q2 2025 Earnings Call July 29, 2025 11:00 AM ET Speaker0Hello, everyone, and thank you for joining the CNO Financial Group Second Quarter twenty twenty five Earnings Call. My name is Sami, and I'll be coordinating your call today. I would now like to hand over to your host, Adam Orville, from CNO to begin. Please go ahead, Adam.Speaker1Good morning, and thank you for joining us on CNO Financial Group's second quarter twenty twenty five earnings conference call. Today's presentation ...
CNO Financial Group(CNO) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-04-29 19:57
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Operating earnings per diluted share were $0.79, up 52%, and $0.74, up 42%, excluding significant items [5][25] - Book value per diluted share, excluding AOCI, was $37.03, up 6% [7] - Operating return on equity excluding significant items was 11.9% on a trailing twelve-month basis [26] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consumer division saw annuity collected premiums up 12%, account values up 7%, and premium per policy up 19% [10] - Health NAP was up 9%, with Medicare Supplement NAP up 24% and Medicare Advantage policies up 42% [13][14] - Worksite insurance sales were up 11%, with critical illness insurance up 37% and life insurance up 17% [19] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - New money rates exceeded 6% for nine consecutive quarters, with a new money rate of 6.43% [6][28] - Total investment income was up 16% for the quarter, marking the sixth consecutive quarter of growth [29] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to leverage its business model for sustained profitable growth and drive ROE expansion [8][32] - Focus on reaching the underserved middle-income market through a combination of virtual connections and local agents [9] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledged deteriorating visibility into macroeconomic drivers but expressed confidence in navigating volatility [7][34] - The company reaffirmed its full-year guidance for 2025, despite acknowledging increased risks due to market volatility [31][32] Other Important Information - The company returned $117 million to shareholders, maintaining strong capital and liquidity levels [6] - A new product, Optimize Clear, was introduced to enhance service offerings [23] Q&A Session Summary Question: On buybacks and macro environment - Management indicated a willingness to continue share buybacks, with $100 million deployed in the first quarter [37] Question: Fee revenue and GAAP accounting - Management explained the impact of ASC 606 on revenue recognition, noting potential future reversals [40][41] Question: Outlook for direct-to-consumer life sales - Management expressed optimism for a bounce back in sales, while acknowledging shifts in advertising strategies [58] Question: Medicare business and potential shifts - Management noted strong growth in Medicare Advantage policies and indicated a potential shift back to Medicare Supplement could be beneficial [72][74] Question: Geographic expansion in worksite - Management confirmed ongoing geographic expansion efforts and expected continued growth from new regions [82]
CNO Financial Group(CNO) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-04-29 15:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Operating earnings per diluted share were $0.79, up 52%, and $0.74, up 42% excluding significant items [5][24] - Book value per diluted share, excluding AOCI, was $37.03, up 6% [7] - Capital and liquidity remain well above target levels after returning $117 million to shareholders [6] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Consumer division saw annuity collected premiums up 12%, account values up 7%, and premium per policy up 19% [10] - Health NAP was up 9%, with Medicare Supplement NAP up 24% and Medicare Advantage policies up 42% [13][14] - Worksite insurance sales were up 11%, with critical illness insurance up 37% and life insurance up 17% [19] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - New money rates exceeded 6% for nine consecutive quarters [6] - Total investment income was up 16% for the quarter, marking the sixth consecutive quarter of growth [28] - The market value of invested assets grew 11% in the quarter [29] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to leverage its business model for sustained profitable growth and drive ROE expansion [8] - Focus on reaching the underserved middle-income market remains a key differentiator [9] - Introduction of new products like Optimize Clear to enhance service offerings [22] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management acknowledges deteriorating visibility into macroeconomic drivers but expresses confidence in navigating volatility [7][31] - The company reaffirms its full-year guidance despite a more volatile environment [30] - Long-term commitment to improving run rate ROE by 150 basis points from 2025 to 2027 [31] Other Important Information - The company plans to launch a new series of investor briefings starting in June [34] - Fee income was adversely impacted by ASC 606 revenue recognition accounting [24] Q&A Session Summary Question: On buybacks, will the company lean into buybacks in the current macro environment? - Management indicated a willingness to continue elevated buyback levels due to strong cash flow [37] Question: Can you explain the GAAP accounting revenue recognition for Medicare Advantage? - Management provided details on how revenue recognition differs from cash flow, emphasizing the impact of sales mix on fee income [39][40] Question: What is the outlook for PAC in the Consumer division? - Management expects continued growth in PAC, despite potential quarter-to-quarter fluctuations [66] Question: How does the company view the demand for insurance products in a recession? - Management believes demand for products will remain strong due to demographic trends, despite potential economic downturns [70][71] Question: What are the implications of potential shifts from Medicare Advantage to Medicare Supplement? - Management expressed confidence that any shifts would not materially impact the business, as they can benefit from both product lines [76] Question: Can you elaborate on the geographic expansion in the worksite division? - Management confirmed ongoing disciplined geographic expansion contributing to sales growth [85]