Well, there's also an industrial complex according to some folks that are backing this. If you've heard of effective altruism, that was like this uh movement of a bunch of I don't know, I guess they consider themselves intellectual sacks and they uh were kind of backing a large swath of organizations that I guess we would call in the industry astroturfing or what do they call it when you make so many of these organizations that they're not real in politics and flooding the zone perhaps. So if you were to lo ...

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