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VinFast Auto .(VFS) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-06-09 13:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net revenue for Q1 2025 was USD 657 million, a 150% increase year over year and largely in line with Q4 2024 [27] - Cost of goods sold for the quarter was USD 888 million, an increase of 113% year over year and down 25% quarter over quarter [27] - Q1 2025 gross margin was -35%, an improvement from -59% in the same period last year [27] - Net loss for the quarter was USD 712 million, with a net loss margin of -109%, compared to -226% in Q1 2024 [30] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q1 2025, VinFast delivered 36,330 electric vehicles, representing a 296% increase year over year and a 32% decline quarter over quarter [7] - Two-wheeler deliveries reached 44,904 units, marking a 473% year over year increase and a 44% rise quarter over quarter [8] - B2C deliveries accounted for over 70% of total sales for three consecutive quarters through Q1 2025 [9] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Vietnam, VinFast's market share of overall auto sales increased to nearly 40% in Q1 2025 from approximately 20% last year [15] - EV penetration in Vietnam reached nearly 40% in Q1, while BEV adoption in Indonesia was 7% and 3% in The Philippines [11] - Vietnam led Southeast Asia in automotive sales growth with a 24% year over year increase [15] Company Strategy and Development Direction - VinFast aims to double vehicle deliveries in 2025 and maintain strong momentum into 2026 [39] - The company is transitioning from a direct-to-consumer model to a dealer-based model to enhance efficiency [28] - New vehicle platforms and EE architecture are expected to drive long-term cost savings and operational efficiency [26][22] Management Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about improved operating leverage driven by economies of scale [6] - The company is focused on scaling operations, accelerating product development, and executing cost optimization to achieve profitability [39] - Management acknowledged the challenges posed by global macroeconomic and trade uncertainties but remains committed to growth [7] Other Important Information - CapEx for Q1 2025 was USD 147 million, down 24% year over year and 40% quarter over quarter [30] - As of May 31, liquidity stands at approximately USD 2.4 billion, including various loans and grants [32] Q&A Session Summary Question: Timeline on new factories in Vietnam, India, and Indonesia - All facilities in Asia are expected to start operations this year, with the India factory opening in July [36] Question: Key catalysts for investors in 2025 - Growth will be driven by deeper market penetration in key international markets and new product offerings [39] Question: Timing of CapEx and when it might peak - Total CapEx planned for 2025 is USD 800 million, with over 50% allocated to R&D [44] Question: Expansion into the bus market - Deliveries of buses have already started in Vietnam, with plans to expand into other markets [46] Question: Average selling price (ASP) trajectory for the rest of the year - ASP for Q1 2025 was around USD 15,000, expected to remain under USD 20,000 for the full year [49] Question: Variable margin versus fixed costs in production - Variable costs are being optimized, with expectations for improvements in gross margin by 2026 [51] Question: Rationale for closing B2C showrooms in North America and Europe - Transitioning to a dealership model to enhance efficiency and scale globally [61] Question: Liquidity status - Total cash burn for 2025 is expected to be around USD 2 billion to USD 2.5 billion [64]
VinFast Auto .(VFS) - 2025 Q1 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-06-09 13:00
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Net revenue for Q1 2025 was USD 657 million, a 150% increase year over year and largely in line with Q4 2024 [24] - Cost of goods sold for the quarter was USD 888 million, an increase of 113% year over year and down 25% quarter over quarter [24] - Q1 2025 gross margin was -35%, an improvement from -59% in the same period last year [25] - Net loss for the quarter was USD 712 million, with a net loss margin of -109%, compared to -226% in Q1 2024 [28] - Operating cash flow for the quarter was -USD 607 million, an improvement from -USD 500 million in Q1 2024 [29] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q1 2025, VinFast delivered 36,330 electric vehicles, a 296% increase year over year but a 32% decline quarter over quarter [6] - Two-wheeler deliveries reached 44,904 units, marking a 473% year over year increase and a 44% rise quarter over quarter [7] - B2C deliveries accounted for over 70% of total sales for three consecutive quarters through Q1 2025 [7] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Vietnam, VinFast's market share of overall auto sales increased to nearly 40% in Q1 2025 from approximately 20% last year [13] - EV penetration in Vietnam reached nearly 40% in Q1, while BEV adoption in Indonesia was 7% and in The Philippines was only 3% [9] - VinFast's charging partner, V Green, has deployed over 2,000 charging locations across Indonesia, with approximately 16% operational [11] Company Strategy and Development Direction - VinFast is transitioning from a direct-to-consumer model to a dealer-based model to improve operational efficiency [26] - The company plans to double vehicle deliveries in 2025 and maintain strong momentum into 2026 [37] - New vehicle platforms and EE architecture are expected to drive long-term cost savings and operational efficiency [23][19] Management Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed optimism about improved operating leverage driven by economies of scale despite ongoing global macroeconomic uncertainties [5] - The company anticipates higher R&D spending in the coming periods to support the development of next-generation platforms and technologies [27] - Management highlighted the importance of scaling operations and optimizing costs as key factors for achieving profitability [37] Other Important Information - CapEx for Q1 2025 was USD 147 million, down 24% year over year and 40% quarter over quarter [28] - As of May 31, the company's liquidity stands at around USD 2.4 billion, including various loans and grants [30] Q&A Session Summary Question: Timeline for new factories in Vietnam, India, and Indonesia - All facilities in Asia are expected to start operations this year, with the India factory opening in July [34] Question: Key catalysts for investors in 2025 - Key catalysts include scaling operations, accelerating product development, and executing cost optimization [37] Question: Timing of CapEx and expected peak - The company plans to spend a total of USD 800 million in 2025, with over 50% allocated to R&D [42] Question: Expansion into the bus market - The company expects to deliver about 1,000 buses in Vietnam this year and is expanding into other markets [45] Question: Average selling price (ASP) trajectory - ASP for Q1 2025 was around USD 15,000, expected to remain under USD 20,000 for the full year [48] Question: Closing of B2C showrooms in North America and Europe - The transition to a dealership model is aimed at enhancing efficiency and scale globally [60] Question: Liquidity status - The company has disbursed USD 1.2 billion in loans and has a liquidity of approximately USD 2.4 billion [64]
VinFast Auto .(VFS) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-04-24 20:52
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - In Q4 2024, revenue was $678 million, up 34% quarter over quarter and 70% year over year, while full year revenue reached $1.8 billion, a 58% increase year over year [27] - Cost of goods sold in Q4 2024 was $1.2 billion, a 93% increase quarter over quarter, with full year cost of goods sold at $2.8 billion, up 67% versus 2023 [27] - Q4 2024 gross margin was -79%, compared to -24% in Q3, primarily due to an accounting charge related to the free charging program [28] - Full year gross margin loss improved to -32% in 2024 from -40% in 2023 when adjusted for the free charging program [29] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total deliveries for Q4 2024 reached 53,139 electric vehicles, a 143% increase quarter over quarter and 342% year over year [12] - B2C sales grew by 140% quarter over quarter and over 20 times year over year, with 81% of EV deliveries to non-related party customers [12] - The proportion of EV deliveries from non-Vietnam sales grew tenfold year over year, increasing from 3% to 10% of total deliveries [10] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - As of March 31, 2025, VinFast had 322 showrooms globally, with 89% being dealer stores, marking a 160% growth from 123 showrooms at the end of 2023 [10] - In Southeast Asia, the company is expanding its presence with strategic partnerships, having launched a green mobility ecosystem in Indonesia and the Philippines [13][14] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to solidify its leadership position in Vietnam while expanding into new markets, focusing on product innovation and cost optimization [86] - VinFast is committed to a three-pillar growth strategy: Product, Capacity, and Market, targeting to double 2024 volumes in 2025 [23][24] - The discontinuation of the battery leasing program is part of a strategic shift as consumer familiarity with EVs increases, complemented by a free charging program [84] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management expressed confidence in achieving 2025 guidance despite macroeconomic challenges, expecting Q1 to be the slowest quarter with a significant uptick in the second half of the year [40] - The company is focused on scaling volume through new product launches and enhancing manufacturing efficiency to drive margin improvement [46] Other Important Information - The company received approximately $800 million in capital support from its founder and Vingroup by December 31, 2024, with total disbursements exceeding $1.5 billion by March 31, 2025 [35] - Cash burn improved significantly in 2024, decreasing by 39% year over year to $1.9 billion, reflecting disciplined cost and capital management [33] Q&A Session Summary Question: What gives confidence in the 2025 guidance? - Management expects Q1 to be slow but anticipates an uptick in Q2 and significant deliveries in the second half, projecting at least double the deliveries of the previous year [40][42] Question: Path to positive gross margins? - Excluding one-off charges, the gross loss margin improved from -40% in 2023 to -32% in 2024, with a focus on scaling volume and optimizing costs [45][46] Question: Accounting treatment for EV charging credit? - A one-time charge of $242 million was recognized in Q4 for the free charging program, with future recognition aligned with vehicle sales during the program [50][51] Question: Capital spending for 2025 and 2026? - Expected cash burn for 2025 is approximately $2.5 billion, with $1.8 billion allocated for CapEx on CKD facilities across Asia [57][58] Question: Share of sales from VF3 and VF5 in 2025? - The share is expected to be less than 50% in 2025, as new models from the green series will contribute significantly [62] Question: Impact of U.S. tariffs on consumer spending? - The company believes the impact of U.S. tariffs will be less severe compared to other OEMs, with most growth expected from non-U.S. markets [82] Question: Rationale for discontinuing battery leasing? - Battery leasing was essential in early EV adoption but has decreased significantly in sales percentage, making it the right time to discontinue [84]
VinFast Auto .(VFS) - 2024 Q4 - Earnings Call Transcript
2025-04-24 13:02
Financial Data and Key Metrics Changes - Revenue for Q4 2024 was $678 million, up 34% quarter over quarter and 70% year over year [27] - Full year revenue reached $1.8 billion, an increase of 58% year over year [27] - Cost of goods sold in Q4 2024 was $1.2 billion, a 93% increase quarter over quarter [27] - Full year cost of goods sold was $2.8 billion, up 67% compared to 2023 [27] - Q4 2024 gross margin was -79%, compared to -24% in Q3 2024 [28] - Full year gross margin loss improved to -57% in 2024 from -49% in 2023 [28] Business Line Data and Key Metrics Changes - Total deliveries for Q4 2024 reached 53,139 electric vehicles, a 143% increase quarter over quarter and 342% year over year [12] - B2C sales grew by 140% quarter over quarter and over 20 times year over year [12] - The proportion of EV deliveries to non-related party customers increased to 81% from 78% in Q3 2024 [12] - The company delivered 31,170 e-scooters in Q4 2024, a 65% increase quarter over quarter [12] Market Data and Key Metrics Changes - Non-Vietnam sales grew tenfold year over year, increasing their contribution from 3% to 10% of total deliveries [10] - As of March 31, 2025, VinFast had 322 showrooms globally, with 89% being dealer stores, marking a 160% growth [10] - In Southeast Asia, the company has established 22 showrooms in Indonesia and 6 in the Philippines as of March 31, 2025 [14] Company Strategy and Development Direction - The company aims to solidify its leadership position in Vietnam while expanding into new markets [85] - Plans to open three new CKD plants in Asia in 2025 to enhance production flexibility [26] - The focus is on building a vertically integrated green mobility ecosystem, combining electric vehicles, shared mobility services, and charging infrastructure [13] Management's Comments on Operating Environment and Future Outlook - Management remains confident in achieving 2025 guidance despite macroeconomic challenges, expecting Q1 to be the slowest quarter [40] - The company is focused on scaling volume through new product launches and deepening market presence in Asia [46] - Management highlighted the importance of optimizing manufacturing efficiency and strategic capital deployment to drive margin improvement [46] Other Important Information - The company has discontinued its battery leasing program, which was previously a key differentiator, due to increased consumer familiarity with EVs [83] - A free charging program has been introduced to ease the transition for customers, extending benefits until 2027 [84] - The liquidity position stood at approximately $3 billion as of March 31, 2025, including $968 million in an ELOC facility [34] Q&A Session Summary Question: What gives confidence in the 2025 guidance given macro conditions? - Management expects Q1 to be slow but anticipates an uptick in Q2 with new model deliveries, projecting that the first half will contribute approximately 25-30% of total deliveries [38][40] Question: Path to positive gross margins with lower ASPs? - Excluding one-off charges, the gross loss margin improved to -32% in 2024, and the focus will be on scaling volume and optimizing costs to drive margin improvement [45][46] Question: Clarification on accounting treatment for EV charging credits? - A one-time charge of $242 million was recognized in Q4 2024 for the free charging program, which will be realized over the life of the program [50][51] Question: Capital spending for 2025 and 2026? - Expected cash burn for 2025 is approximately $2.5 billion, with $1.8 billion allocated for CapEx on CKD facilities [58] Question: Status of the US manufacturing plant in North Carolina? - The company remains committed to the North Carolina facility, with plans to monitor macroeconomic conditions and adjust as necessary [73] Question: Progress in Indonesia and the Philippines? - Deliveries in Indonesia have begun, with plans to expand the dealership network, while the Philippines has introduced five models and aims for 50 showrooms by year-end [76][77]