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理想i8和乘龙卡车对撞测试,要不要公证?
Hu Xiu· 2025-08-04 11:49
Group 1 - The core issue revolves around the safety collision tests of the Li Auto i8 and the subsequent controversy involving Dongfeng Liuzhou Motor's Chenglong trucks [1][2] - Li Auto stated that the tests were designed based on common traffic accident scenarios and were conducted by China Automotive Research Institute (CARI) [2][11] - CARI clarified that the tests were solely to verify the safety of the Li Auto i8 and did not evaluate the safety performance of other brands [3][9] Group 2 - Dongfeng Liuzhou Motor responded to the controversy, claiming that their brand was misrepresented and that the testing video was used without authorization [5][4] - The company emphasized adherence to a "real-world protection" principle in their safety systems and condemned any actions that undermine industry integrity [5][4] - Both Li Auto and CARI confirmed that the i8's passenger compartment showed no significant deformation during the tests, with airbags deploying normally and no leakage or fire from the battery pack [12][16] Group 3 - Concerns were raised regarding the testing methods, with experts noting that collisions between lighter and heavier vehicles typically result in more damage to the lighter vehicle [10][20] - CARI and Li Auto maintained that the tests were conducted under scientifically rigorous standards, with CARI being a state-owned enterprise and a recognized authority in automotive testing [13][16] - There is a suggestion from industry professionals that third-party testing should be subject to public notarization to enhance credibility [19][20]
深夜回应i8和卡车对撞测试争议!理想汽车与中国汽研接连发声背后:第三方机构测试需要公证吗?
Mei Ri Jing Ji Xin Wen· 2025-08-04 10:47
每经记者|孙磊 每经编辑|裴健如 对于近期理想i8与乘龙卡车安全性碰撞测试引发的争议,理想汽车和中国汽研正式作出公开回应。 8月3日晚,理想汽车官方微博发布《关于理想i8安全性碰撞测试的说明》称,本次测试参照普通公路高频发生的交通事故情形制定测试要求,委托中国汽研 执行。"对于测试过程导致东风柳汽乘龙品牌被意外卷入舆情争议,我们实属无心之举。"理想汽车表示。 当晚,理想i8对撞试验的测试方中国汽研也发布声明函称,该测试项目仅验证理想i8车辆安全性,非标准车对车碰撞试验,不涉及其他品牌车辆的安全性能 评价。 测试是为了验证车辆安全性 值得一提的是,在此次测试引发争议后,乘龙卡车方面在7月31日进行了首次公开的正式回应。当晚,据乘龙卡车微信公众号,东风柳州汽车有限公司(以 下简称东风柳汽)发表声明,回应某品牌对撞乘龙卡车测试。 该声明提到,"某品牌未经授权使用并扭曲传播乘龙卡车碰撞测试视频,已构成严重侵权,超过正常商业竞争范畴;乘龙卡车安全体系严格遵循'真实场景防 护'原则;东风柳汽作为央国企,坚决反对任何通过贬损同业、恶意攀比等破坏行业生态的行为"。 图片来源:乘龙卡车微信公众号 关于此次测试,理想汽车在8月3 ...
业内称汽检机构委托测试一企一策
Di Yi Cai Jing· 2025-08-04 09:15
Core Viewpoint - The incident involving the testing of the new i8 model by Li Auto, which resulted in a dramatic crash scenario, has raised questions about the integrity and commercial practices of third-party automotive testing institutions in China, particularly China Automotive Research (China Qi Yan) [1] Group 1: Company Background - China Automotive Research, formerly known as Chongqing Automotive Research Institute, was officially listed on the Shanghai Stock Exchange in June 2012, with a major shareholder being China Certification & Inspection Group Co., Ltd., which holds approximately 53% of the shares [1] - China Certification & Inspection Group was established in 1980 and is a central enterprise managed by the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the State Council [1] Group 2: Testing Practices - The testing conducted for Li Auto's i8 was described as a commissioned project by China Qi Yan, indicating that most automotive testing institutions engage in similar commercial practices, which are tailored to client specifications rather than standardized testing protocols [1] - The term "one enterprise, one policy" is used to describe the customized nature of these tests, suggesting a lack of fixed standards in the collision tests conducted [1] Group 3: Ethical Concerns - There are concerns regarding whether the commercial interests of third-party automotive testing institutions could compromise their impartiality and the establishment of a scientific and fair evaluation system within the automotive industry [1]
起底汽车检测商业链条,中国汽研汽车技术服务毛利率约48%
Di Yi Cai Jing· 2025-08-04 08:55
Core Viewpoint - The article discusses the commercial operations and ethical concerns surrounding China Automotive Research (中国汽研), particularly in light of a controversial testing incident involving Li Auto's new model i8, raising questions about the integrity of third-party automotive testing institutions [1] Group 1: Company Overview - China Automotive Research, formerly known as Chongqing Automotive Research Institute, was officially listed on the Shanghai Stock Exchange in June 2012 after several restructuring and renaming efforts [1] - The major shareholder of China Automotive Research is China Certification & Inspection Group Co., Ltd., which holds approximately 53% of the shares and is a central enterprise managed by the State-owned Assets Supervision and Administration Commission of the State Council [1] Group 2: Incident Details - The incident involved a testing video where a truck was dramatically struck by an SUV, leading to public outcry and scrutiny of the testing methods employed by China Automotive Research [1] - Both China Automotive Research and Li Auto issued statements clarifying that the testing was based on typical traffic accident scenarios on public roads, emphasizing adherence to established testing guidelines [1] Group 3: Ethical Concerns - The article raises critical questions about how a third-party testing institution, backed by a state-owned enterprise, can maintain impartiality in its commercial operations [1] - It highlights the need for a scientific and fair evaluation system within the automotive testing industry, particularly in balancing commercial interests with ethical standards [1]
起底汽车检测商业链条:75%毛利背后的隐秘规则
Di Yi Cai Jing· 2025-08-04 08:35
Core Viewpoint - The incident involving the Ideal i8 vehicle colliding with a truck has raised significant public concern regarding the integrity and scientific validity of automotive testing conducted by third-party institutions like China Automotive Research (CARS) [1][8] Group 1: Incident and Response - The collision test video showing the Ideal i8 causing a truck to "fly" has sparked widespread debate about the realism and physics of such outcomes [1] - Both CARS and Ideal Automotive issued statements clarifying that the test was designed based on common traffic accident scenarios [1] Group 2: Testing Procedures - The collision tests are typically customized projects where the manufacturer specifies the testing requirements, leading to a lack of standardized procedures [2][4] - Preparations for these tests involve multiple steps, including site selection and equipment setup, requiring collaboration between the manufacturer and the testing agency [2][3] Group 3: Market Dynamics - CARS has developed commercial testing projects like SUPER CRASH, which are utilized by various automotive manufacturers to validate safety features [5][6] - The pricing for these tests varies significantly based on complexity, with costs ranging from hundreds of thousands to millions of yuan [6] Group 4: Credibility Challenges - The intertwining of commercial interests and testing integrity poses challenges to the credibility of third-party testing agencies, as they must balance business sustainability with impartiality [7][8] - The recent Ideal i8 incident has highlighted the potential for misleading results that could distort public perception of vehicle safety [8] Group 5: Industry Trends - The automotive testing industry is expanding, particularly in the realm of intelligent driving assessments, driven by regulatory changes and market demand [9][10] - There is a growing need for a comprehensive and scientifically valid evaluation system for intelligent driving technologies, as current methods may not adequately reflect real-world performance [10]
汽车服务板块8月4日涨0.7%,交运股份领涨,主力资金净流入1382.1万元
证券之星消息,8月4日汽车服务板块较上一交易日上涨0.7%,交运股份领涨。当日上证指数报收于 3583.31,上涨0.66%。深证成指报收于11041.56,上涨0.46%。汽车服务板块个股涨跌见下表: | 代码 | 名称 | 收盘价 | 涨跌幅 | 成交量(手) | 成交额(元) | | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | --- | | 600676 | 交运股份 | 5.52 | 5.75% | 49.65万 | 2.66亿 | | 601965 | 中国汽研 | 19.46 | 0.57% | 7.38万 | 1.44亿 | | 301215 | 中汽股份 | 6.18 | 0.32% | 5.96万 | 3671.17万 | | 300825 | 阿尔特 | 11.74 | 0.26% | 13.92万 | 1.62亿 | | 600822 | 上海物贸 | 11.99 | 0.25% | 8.61万 | 1.03亿 | | 600335 | 国机汽车 | 6.40 | 0.16% | 8.34万 | 5317.23万 | | 600386 | 北巴传媒 | 4.67 | 0 ...
中国汽研发声 回应 “理想i8和乘龙卡车对撞测试争议”
Cai Jing Wang· 2025-08-04 07:38
Core Viewpoint - The collision test of the Li Auto i8 conducted by China Automotive Research (China汽研) is aimed solely at verifying the vehicle's safety and does not involve safety evaluations of other brands [1][5][6]. Group 1: Test Details - The test was designed based on typical traffic accident scenarios on ordinary roads, with a focus on high-frequency accident conditions [5][6]. - A second-hand Dongfeng Liuzhou brand truck was used as a mobile barrier for the test, which was randomly purchased from the market [1][5]. - The Li Auto i8 underwent inspection and verification before the test, and the mobile barrier truck was modified and weighted to 8 tons [5]. Group 2: Company Statements - Li Auto emphasized that the purpose of the test was to validate and enhance the passive safety performance of the i8, not to evaluate the quality of other brands [6]. - The company clarified that it does not intend to make quality assessments of the Dongfeng Liuzhou brand truck and that there is no direct competition between Li Auto and Dongfeng Liuzhou [6]. Group 3: Public Reaction and Controversy - Following the test, there was significant public attention, particularly regarding the identification of the truck brand involved in the collision [7][10]. - Dongfeng Liuzhou responded to the controversy by releasing their own collision test video, highlighting the safety features of their trucks [7][10]. - The truck brand's social media platforms received numerous comments from users expressing concerns about the safety implications of the test [10][12].
中国汽研、理想汽车发布声明
Guan Cha Zhe Wang· 2025-08-04 04:34
Core Viewpoint - The collision test between Li Auto's i8 and a Dongfeng Liuzhou Chaochai truck has sparked controversy, with both companies issuing statements to clarify the nature and purpose of the test [1][2][5][6]. Group 1: Test Details - The collision test involved the Li Auto i8, which was showcased at its launch event, where it collided with an 8-ton truck at a speed of 100 km/h [1]. - The truck used in the test was a second-hand vehicle randomly purchased from the market, serving as a mobile barrier for the test [2][5]. - The test was not a standard vehicle-to-vehicle collision test and did not evaluate the safety performance of other brands [2][5]. Group 2: Company Responses - China Automotive Engineering Research Institute (China Auto Research) stated that the test was designed to verify the safety of the Li Auto i8 and emphasized the need for objective and rational discourse in the industry [5]. - Li Auto clarified that the test aimed to demonstrate the safety efforts of the i8 and that the truck was not intended for quality evaluation, expressing regret over the unintended controversy involving the Dongfeng Liuzhou Chaochai brand [6]. - Li Auto highlighted that it focuses on family passenger vehicles and does not compete directly with Dongfeng Liuzhou Chaochai, which is recognized as a leading brand in the Chinese truck industry [6].
中国汽研声明:理想i8碰撞测试仅验证理想i8车辆安全性
Ju Chao Zi Xun· 2025-08-04 03:17
8月3日,中国汽研关于理想i8的碰撞测试引发舆论事件发布声明函件称,该测试项目仅验证理想i8车辆安全性,非标准车对车碰撞试验,不涉及其他品牌车 辆的安全性能评价。 测试前,试验团队对样品车辆理想i8进行了查验确认,并对移动式壁障车进行了整备:外饰伪装(车身红色改白色、伪装粘贴)、安装自动驾驶装置,并配重至 8吨。测试过程中,理想i8的碰撞速度为60±2km/h,移动式壁障车相向速度为40±2km/h。 测试结束后,理想i8的乘员舱无明显变形,气囊展开正常、电池包无漏液无起火、车门自动解锁、门把手自动弹开。移动式壁障车经高强度碰撞后,驾驶室 结构未发生明显变形整体结构完整、车门可以正常打开。 以上为整个交通事故场景模拟的测试情况。截至发文前,中国汽研未在任何平台、媒介发布测试数据、报告和影像资料,也未就此次事件做出任何官方回 应。对此,中国汽研倡议行业、媒体和公众平台客观理性,共同维护行业生态,维护网络清朗。同时,中国汽研将保留对恶意解读、误导传播的平台和个人 媒体的法律、声誉的追诉权。 中国汽研于2025年6月27日在中德智能网联汽车四川试验基地性能路对理想i8(VIN:HLX13B172S1200081)进 ...
理想/中国汽研回应i8与乘龙重卡对撞测试!| 头条
第一商用车网· 2025-08-04 02:28
Core Viewpoint - The article discusses the safety testing of the Li Auto i8, emphasizing the company's commitment to user safety and the transparency of the testing process conducted by a third-party authority, China Automotive Engineering Research Institute (China Automotive Research) [3][5][10]. Group 1: Purpose of the Test - Li Auto prioritizes user safety and aims to create a secure travel environment for families, which led to the decision to conduct collision tests to validate the passive safety performance of the Li i8 [3][5]. - The testing was designed to simulate real-life collision scenarios, particularly the risks associated with smaller vehicles colliding with larger ones, a common concern among consumers [3][5]. Group 2: Test Performance - The collision test was executed by China Automotive Research, a reputable state-owned enterprise, ensuring the scientific authority of the results [5][10]. - The Li i8's innovative short front suspension safety structure effectively absorbed impact forces, with no significant deformation observed in critical structural components such as the A, B, and C pillars, and all nine airbags deployed correctly [5][11]. Group 3: Public Reaction and Clarifications - The test aimed solely to enhance the safety performance of the Li i8 and was not intended to evaluate other brands, clarifying that the used Dongfeng Liuzhou truck was merely a movable barrier [6][10]. - Li Auto emphasized that there is no direct competition with Dongfeng Liuzhou, as they focus on passenger vehicles while Dongfeng is a leader in the truck sector [6][10]. Group 4: Compliance with Standards - The Li i8 was developed in accordance with the latest national standards for vehicle safety, including GB11551-2014 and GB20071-2025, and has undergone over 100 internal tests to ensure compliance with safety regulations [7][10].