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橡树资本马克斯:英伟达(NVDA.US)30倍PE“不算疯” AI未必是互联网泡沫翻版
智通财经网· 2025-12-10 13:34
他指出,问题的关键在于,新事物理应激发巨大热情,但当热情达到非理性程度时,泡沫就会形成。上 月在亚洲和中东拜访客户期间,马克斯频繁被问及AI是否存在泡沫。尽管自称既非技术专家也非股市 专家,但他尽力对这一话题做出理性评估。 马克斯认同Byrne Hobart和Tobias Huber的研究发现:投资者将资金注入革命性机遇领域,加速其进步。 部分资金将投向改变生活的赢家企业,但大量资本将"灰飞烟灭"。当然,关键是不要成为财富在此过程 中被摧毁的投资者。 周三,橡树资本联合创始人霍华德·马克斯(Howard Marks)在英国《金融时报》专栏发文称,尽管AI 投资热潮引发泡沫担忧,但当前形势与互联网泡沫存在本质差异。这位经历过多轮泡沫周期的资深投资 者认为,鉴于AI需求增长极度不可预测,投资者行为无疑具有投机性质,但不应简单归类为非理性狂 热。 马克斯指出,英伟达(NVDA.US)作为AI领军企业,其约30倍的远期市盈率虽然偏高,但对于一家能够 产生巨额盈利的卓越公司而言"并不疯狂",远低于1999年互联网泡沫期间部分科技股的估值水平。他强 调,与当年不同的是,AI产品已经存在,需求正在爆发式增长,并迅速产生可观 ...
万字复盘:今年VC心情好多了
投资界· 2025-12-06 07:56
Core Insights - The investment sentiment in the Chinese venture capital market is generally positive, with many industry leaders expressing optimism about the upcoming years, potentially marking the beginning of a "golden three years" for the sector [6][13][30] - The performance of the Hong Kong stock market, particularly in the biotech sector, has been strong, with some companies seeing stock price increases of 5 to 10 times, which contributes to the overall positive outlook [13][18] - There is a consensus that while opportunities exist in various sectors, including AI and healthcare, caution is warranted due to potential market bubbles, particularly in emerging technologies like robotics [20][25][29] Investment Climate - The overall investment climate is described as "good," with many firms reporting increased investment activity compared to the previous year, with some firms doubling their investment amounts [8][9][12] - Several firms have successfully exited investments through IPOs, indicating a healthy exit environment, with expectations for more IPOs in the near future [10][11][14] - The investment pace has accelerated, with many firms reporting a significant increase in the number of projects funded this year compared to last year [9][12][14] Market Opportunities - Key opportunities identified include advancements in AI, biotechnology, and the globalization of Chinese enterprises, which are seen as long-term growth drivers [17][20][25] - The robotics sector is highlighted as a rapidly growing area, although concerns about potential bubbles exist due to the influx of capital and competition [20][25] - The healthcare sector, particularly innovative pharmaceuticals, is also viewed as a significant opportunity, with many firms focusing on integrating into global supply chains [23][24][30] Challenges and Risks - The venture capital industry faces challenges related to fund duration and the need for extensions, which could impact the stability of the sector if not addressed [6][44] - There are concerns about the valuation discrepancies in the market, particularly in the Hong Kong stock market, where some companies are overvalued compared to their performance [18][19] - The regulatory environment, including IPO approval processes and tax policies, is seen as a barrier to optimizing the investment landscape, necessitating reforms to enhance market efficiency [42][43][44]
白银叙事的外溢与泡沫之外可能性
对冲研投· 2025-12-02 07:41
Group 1 - The article discusses the significant rise in the commodity market, particularly in precious and base metals, driven by changing expectations regarding the Federal Reserve's interest rate cuts, with the probability of a cut rising from approximately 30%-40% to 80% [4] - Silver has shown the most remarkable increase, with Comex silver reaching a new high of $58.6 per ounce, marking an annual increase of over 90% [4] - The core support for this price movement stems from a supply-demand gap, with industrial demand remaining resilient despite technological advancements reducing marginal energy consumption [6] Group 2 - Silver demand from the photovoltaic sector remains high, with India's import volume rebounding to an annual scale of 5,500-6,000 tons, contributing to industrial demand resilience [6] - Silver inventories have dropped significantly, with Shanghai Futures Exchange silver stocks falling to around 710 tons (the lowest in nearly a decade) and Comex deliverable stocks decreasing to 4,300 tons [6] - The article notes that the speculative demand driven by rising gold prices has indirectly opened up upward potential for silver [6] Group 3 - The Silver Institute projects global silver production to be 32,115 tons and 31,881 tons in 2026 and 2027, respectively, with a potential decline in demand from solar equipment production due to rising prices [9] - The article highlights that the market is currently in an overbought phase, with a need for caution regarding potential high-level corrections [9] - The article emphasizes the importance of monitoring demand follow-through, as the current commodity bull narrative is not driven by traditional demand factors [14] Group 4 - Recent economic data indicates a weak recovery, with the manufacturing PMI recorded at 49.2 and the non-manufacturing PMI at 49.5, suggesting ongoing weak recovery dynamics [14] - Industrial profits for large-scale enterprises showed a slight overall increase but a month-on-month decline, indicating uneven economic recovery [15] - The article suggests that while there are some positive signals in policy demand, such as energy storage planning, the overall demand remains weak [16] Group 5 - The article warns of potential risks in the commodity market, particularly in oil prices, which are under pressure due to high inventories and weak demand [17] - It also highlights the importance of identifying marginal changes in supply, with specific attention to the palm oil market, where production has significantly decreased [17] - The upcoming Federal Reserve meetings are noted as critical events that could impact risk assets and market sentiment [21]
ChatGPT三周年:引爆AI革命、改写股市版图背后,泡沫已在积聚?
Sou Hu Cai Jing· 2025-12-01 03:46
毫不夸张地说,ChatGPT随后颠覆了商业和科技领域,迅速走红。它至今仍位居苹果免费应用排行榜首位,并且引爆了一波生成式AI产品的浪潮。 ChatGPT 北京时间12月1日,据科技网站TechCrunch报道,美国当地时间11月30日,ChatGPT迎来问世三周年纪念日。这款聊天机器人引爆了生成式AI市场,但是或 许也催生出了一场泡沫。 2022年11月30日,OpenAI向世界推出了一款新产品,并轻描淡写地将其描述为"一个名为ChatGPT的模型,它能以对话方式互动"。 这股热潮还能持续多久?除了英伟达CEO黄仁勋(Jensen Huang)外,越来越多的AI企业高管开始承认,行业可能正身处泡沫之中。 "有人会在AI领域损失惨重。"OpenAI CEO萨姆·奥特曼(Sam Altman)在8月与记者共进晚餐时表示。 同样地,Sierra CEO兼OpenAI董事长布雷特·泰勒(Bret Taylor)也认为行业正处于"泡沫"之中,并将其与上世纪90年代末的互联网泡沫相提并论。他预测,虽 然个别公司可能会失败,"但AI将重塑经济格局,就像互联网一样,未来必将创造巨大的经济价值"。 再过三年或更短的时间,人们或 ...
洪灝、李蓓、付鹏罕见同台发声:黄金已卖,投资告一段落,AI泡沫三观点,100万这么布局
Sou Hu Cai Jing· 2025-11-29 13:44
Group 1 - The discussion at The Year Ahead 2026 summit featured insights from prominent figures in investment and economics, including concerns about the sustainability of AI capital expenditures and potential market bubbles [2][3][4] - There is skepticism regarding the long-term viability of AI investments, with comparisons drawn to past infrastructure investments in China that did not yield sustainable returns [3][16][17] - The panelists expressed a consensus that gold is not a guaranteed investment, with historical precedents indicating potential long-term bear markets for gold due to central bank selling [11][38][39] Group 2 - The panel highlighted the importance of diversifying investments beyond AI, suggesting that commodities and mining stocks may offer better returns than AI-related stocks [7][21][22] - There is a growing belief that the Chinese yuan may gradually replace gold and the US dollar in international reserves, indicating a shift in global economic dynamics [11][39][42] - The discussion emphasized the need for a balanced investment strategy, with recommendations for low-risk assets that provide stability during economic uncertainty [56][57] Group 3 - The panelists noted that the current economic environment is characterized by a mismatch in production relationships, which could continue to exert pressure on the economy [13][15] - The importance of recognizing the cyclical nature of markets was underscored, with suggestions to focus on companies that can thrive even in downturns [26][55] - The potential for significant changes in the market landscape was acknowledged, with a call for investors to remain vigilant and adaptable to evolving conditions [30][31][50]
“人造肉”千亿赛道的坍塌:资本的幻想与精英主义的泡沫
硅谷101· 2025-11-26 01:17
这是一个曾被比尔·盖茨、李嘉诚、小李子押注的千亿赛道,如今却沦为华尔街的笑话。2019年,Beyond Meat上市首日暴涨163%,一度被视为“拯救地球的未来”;而2025年,它的股价已较高点跌去99.5%,甚至沦为被散户爆炒的Meme“妖股”。更讽刺的是,为了生存,曾经的行业颠覆者Impossible Foods竟然宣布:考虑在植物肉里加“真肉”。 从受到全球资本疯狂追捧,到如今裁员、濒临破产,人造肉行业究竟做错了什么?是口感和价格的双输局面,还是资本健康神话的泡沫破裂?本期视频,我们将实地品尝硅谷现存的人造肉汉堡,并探访超市货架,翻开配料表、融资图,用亲身体验与客观数据揭开人造肉的真相。这场打着拯救地球旗号的科技精英主义实验,到底错在了哪里?人造肉还有机会东山再起吗? 你会看到: 人造肉神话破灭:从华尔街宠儿到妖股玩具 黄金赛道急冻:资本骤冷、投资退潮,消费者们用脚投票 Beyond Meat绝境:10亿美元债务危机下“回光返照”的妖股 Impossible Foods叛变:撕下100%植物基的最后一块遮羞布 不香了的人造肉:口味与价格是永远的痛点 健康神话的破灭:从“健康食品”到“超加工食品”(UPF ...
分歧加剧,黄金严阵以待!
Sou Hu Cai Jing· 2025-11-24 09:34
昨日,白宫国家经济委员会主任凯文·哈塞特表示,新的美联储领导层可能会降息,可能会在新年前后决定美联储主席(的任命)。 近期,拥有投票权的联邦公开市场委员会成员表态显示,支持降息与不支持降息的票委比例约为4比5,后者略占上风。 美联储理事库克、美联储副主席杰斐逊和美联储主席鲍威尔尚未对12月降息明确表态,这三人的政策倾向成为降息与否的核心"选票"。 分析师认为,12月暂停降息的概率或更高,最大不确定性来自鲍威尔如何塑造"共识"。在10月的美联储例会上,鲍威尔曾表示美联储内部对于未来降息的 分歧非常大。 据CME"美联储观察",美联储12月降息25个基点的概率为71%,维持利率不变的概率为29%。 隔夜,现货黄金在剧烈震荡中顽强收稳,收报4077.17美元,全天最高冲至4110.03美元,最低跌至4038.82美元,波动幅度超过70美元。今日欧市盘中,黄 金窄幅震荡,目前在4071美元附近徘徊。 降息再添变数! 上周五,美股三大指数全线上涨,截至收盘,道琼斯工业指数、纳斯达克指数、标普500指数分别上涨1.08%、0.88%、0.98%。 消息面上,美联储降息路径再添变数,美联储内部分歧在12月议息会议前加剧。 ...
观察| 讲一个英伟达的鬼故事
未可知人工智能研究院· 2025-11-24 03:00
Core Viewpoint - The article argues that the impressive financial performance of Nvidia does not negate the existence of a potential bubble, emphasizing the distinction between wealth and money as a fundamental concept in understanding market dynamics [1][2]. Group 1: Understanding Wealth and Money - It is crucial to differentiate between financial wealth and money, as bubbles arise when the total financial wealth significantly exceeds the total money supply [2]. - A bubble can burst when the demand for money forces individuals to sell their wealth for cash, leading to a market collapse [2]. Group 2: Financial Wealth Dynamics - Financial wealth can be easily created, but this does not equate to real value, as seen in inflated valuations like Nvidia's $5 trillion market cap, which may not reflect true asset value [3][4]. - Financial wealth holds no value unless converted into spendable cash, highlighting the importance of liquidity in assessing market stability [3]. Group 3: Market Risks and Dynamics - The article illustrates that when everyone attempts to sell their assets simultaneously due to a liquidity crunch, prices can plummet, leading to a market crash [4]. - The current AI sector, particularly Nvidia, is amplifying risks due to wealth concentration among a few top companies and individuals, exacerbating income inequality [4]. Group 4: Nvidia's Market Position - Nvidia is positioned as a leading player in the AI sector, boasting a market cap that surpasses major companies like Apple and Microsoft, with a third-quarter profit of $57 billion and a 65% increase in net profit [4][5]. - Despite its strong financials, Nvidia's valuation may be unsustainable, likening it to a "tree" with shallow roots, vulnerable to market fluctuations [5][6]. Group 5: Potential Triggers for Market Correction - The article identifies three potential triggers for Nvidia's market correction: rising interest rates, the introduction of a wealth tax in California, and increased competition from other tech companies [13][14][15]. - A proposed 5% wealth tax targeting billionaires could force significant asset sales, leading to a liquidity crisis in the market [13]. Group 6: Competitive Landscape and Challenges - Nvidia's competitive edge, primarily its CUDA ecosystem, is under threat as major clients like Microsoft and Google develop their own chips, reducing dependency on Nvidia's products [10][11]. - The emergence of alternative technologies and competitors like AMD and Huawei is eroding Nvidia's pricing power and market dominance [12]. Group 7: Investor Behavior and Market Sentiment - The article highlights the contrasting behaviors of different investor groups, with hedge funds hedging their positions while retail investors remain overly optimistic about Nvidia's future [17]. - Ordinary investors, often unaware of the underlying risks, may become the most vulnerable in the event of a market downturn, as they are less prepared for potential losses [17]. Group 8: Conclusion and Market Outlook - The narrative surrounding Nvidia's growth may be built on speculative beliefs rather than solid fundamentals, suggesting that the current valuation could be unsustainable [22]. - The article concludes that while the AI revolution may be genuine, the bubble surrounding Nvidia's valuation could burst, emphasizing the importance of risk awareness in investment decisions [22].
邵宇:AI是当代最大泡沫,但也是未来全球资源重新配置的主战场
Feng Huang Wang Cai Jing· 2025-11-21 13:41
Group 1 - The conference "万里同春·豫见未来——中原酿新势·2025中国消费智链创新峰会" was held in Zhengzhou, focusing on new consumption, new manufacturing, and new supply chains [1] - The event aimed to gather industry forces to share new models and experiences, and discuss collaborative innovation in the industrial chain and the cultivation of new productive forces [1] - The conference also explored how the capital market can empower the growth and leap of enterprises in the consumption sector [1] Group 2 - Shao Yu, Chief Economist at Fudan University, emphasized the significant role of artificial intelligence in the current global asset landscape [3] - He identified the previous major bubbles as real estate, US stocks, and Japanese government bonds, which have now shifted to gold, US high-tech stocks, and digital currencies [3] - Shao Yu described the valuation expansion of technology companies related to AI as "the largest bubble humanity has encountered," indicating that bubbles reflect the direction of capital and resource allocation [3] - He noted that the recent growth of large tech companies like Nvidia and Microsoft resembles a "game of order brushing," which inflated sales revenue and valuations, with Nvidia's market value surpassing 5 trillion [3] - The development of new productive forces in China is closely linked to AI, with the competition in the "15th Five-Year Plan" era extending from trade and supply chains to the monetary system [3] - Companies are urged to accelerate the reconstruction of global supply chains to maintain resilience in deeper G2 competition [3]