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谷歌审厂即将结束—液冷厂商出海其它海外大厂展望
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-17 13:37
Core Viewpoint - The liquid cooling industry is approaching a significant turning point, with expectations for explosive growth in 2024, marking it as the "year of liquid cooling" [1]. Group 1: Industry Dynamics - The demand for liquid cooling components from NVIDIA is expected to double next year, indicating a substantial market opportunity for domestic manufacturers [2]. - Domestic manufacturers are likely to gain unexpected market share, with projections for certain companies' market share increasing from 5-8% to potentially 10-15% [2]. - The collaboration between domestic companies and Taiwanese/American firms for OEM production is anticipated to ensure supply stability, with expected overflow in cold plate manufacturing reaching several billion [2]. Group 2: Key Projects and Collaborations - Meta's Prometheus project is showing signs of acceleration, with domestic liquid cooling leaders poised to capture significant market share due to the project's large scale and favorable procurement model [2]. - Google is projected to procure liquid cooling cabinets worth approximately $3-3.5 billion, with a target of 40,000 units, highlighting the collaboration potential with domestic liquid cooling leaders [2]. Group 3: Growth Potential of Leading Companies - Delta's revenue from liquid cooling is projected to reach around 1 billion RMB in 2024, with expectations to grow tenfold to 10 billion RMB by 2025, and further doubling by 2026, indicating a strong growth trajectory for domestic liquid cooling manufacturers [3].
谷歌本周审厂?液冷放量元年在即—2026年行业逻辑梳理及出海展望
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-15 13:16
Core Viewpoint - The liquid cooling industry is expected to experience rapid demand growth starting in 2026, while supply will lag behind, creating a highly favorable market environment for early movers in the sector [17]. Demand Side - As the power consumption of AI computing cards and cabinets increases, traditional air cooling solutions become inadequate, necessitating the adoption of liquid cooling solutions for effective heat dissipation. Specifically, cabinets with power consumption exceeding 35-40KW cannot utilize air cooling [4]. - North America faces severe electricity shortages, and liquid cooling can significantly reduce Power Usage Effectiveness (PUE), thereby saving energy costs and alleviating delays in data center projects caused by power shortages. Liquid cooling solutions can achieve a PUE of less than 1.2 [4]. - Many data centers in North America are located near economic centers or residential areas, and liquid cooling can significantly reduce noise levels compared to air cooling, accelerating project implementation and reducing financial costs [6]. Supply Side - The supply landscape for liquid cooling in North America is currently dominated by American and Taiwanese manufacturers, with limited participation from mainland Chinese firms. The primary technology used is cold plate liquid cooling, which accounts for over 98% of the market [11]. - The verification process for liquid cooling products is lengthy and complex, creating high barriers to entry for new suppliers. This process can take anywhere from six months to two years, making it challenging for many manufacturers to enter the market [11]. Company-Specific Insights - NVIDIA is projected to ship 100,000 cabinets of the GB series (primarily GB300) by 2026, with a liquid cooling value per cabinet estimated at $90,000 to $100,000, leading to a total liquid cooling value of approximately $10 billion [7]. - Google is expected to ship 2.2 to 2.3 million TPU V7 and above chips by 2026, translating to a need for around 35,000 cabinets with liquid cooling solutions, with a total liquid cooling value estimated at $2.6 billion [9]. - Meta anticipates shipping 1 million MTIA V2 chips, requiring about 14,000 cabinets, with a projected liquid cooling value of approximately $1.05 billion [10]. - Amazon's AWS Trainium3 is expected to ship 1.2 million chips, corresponding to around 16,000 cabinets, with an estimated liquid cooling value of $1.25 billion [10]. Market Opportunities for Mainland Chinese Manufacturers - North American CSP technology companies are increasingly looking to mainland Chinese liquid cooling manufacturers to ensure supply chain security, as existing production capacities in North America and Taiwan may not meet the surging demand by 2026 [13]. - Mainland Chinese manufacturers can offer liquid cooling products at a lower cost compared to their foreign counterparts, potentially enhancing project profitability for data centers [13]. - Some leading mainland Chinese manufacturers possess competitive technological advantages in liquid cooling products, which can improve the efficiency of downstream data center products [13]. Future Outlook - The liquid cooling industry is expected to see a significant increase in demand starting in 2026, with early adopters benefiting from the first wave of industry growth. The process of engaging with overseas manufacturers, obtaining samples, and securing initial orders will be crucial for companies looking to capitalize on this trend [17].
2025年出货量下调至2.73万台
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-14 12:37
Core Viewpoint - The article discusses the AI industry chain, focusing on infrastructure, algorithms, and applications, while providing insights from recent reports by Morgan Stanley and JP Morgan regarding ODM manufacturers' performance and shipment forecasts. ODM Manufacturers' Performance and Shipment Analysis - Morgan Stanley ranks ODM manufacturers for GPU AI servers as Wistron > Hon Hai > Quanta [2][18] - Morgan Stanley's latest forecast for GB200/300 rack shipments is adjusted to 27,300 units, down from 28,000 units, primarily due to updates following Quanta's Q3 earnings call [2] - Quanta's management indicates a conservative outlook for AI revenue growth in Q1 2026, leading to a downward adjustment of their Q4 2025 rack shipment forecast from approximately 3,500 to 2,500 units [7] - Despite Quanta's adjustment, Wistron shows strong growth, leading to a slight increase in overall rack shipment forecasts for Q4 2025, from 8,000-8,500 to 13,500-14,000 units [7] Company-Specific Revenue Insights - Quanta reported November revenue of approximately NT$193 billion, with a month-on-month increase of 11% and a year-on-year increase of 36%, driven by GB200/300 rack shipments expected to reach 1,000-1,100 units [13] - Wistron achieved a record revenue of NT$281 billion in November, with a month-on-month increase of 52% and a year-on-year increase of 195%, attributed to significant increases in L10 computing tray shipments [14] - Hon Hai's November GB200 rack shipments remained stable at approximately 2,600 units, with expectations of a decline in December due to year-end holidays, maintaining a forecast of 7,200 units for Q4 2025 [15] 2026 Preliminary Outlook - The forecast for rack shipments in 2026 is challenging, but Morgan Stanley has adjusted its estimate to 70,000-80,000 units, up from 60,000-70,000 units, based on anticipated inventory carryover of approximately 2 million Blackwell chips [17] - Morgan Stanley maintains the ranking of ODM manufacturers as Wistron > Hon Hai > Quanta, noting that actual deliveries may be lower than predicted due to assembly and testing times for L11 racks not being included in the estimates [18]
英伟达电力大会在即,2026年AI电力出海核心板块逻辑梳理
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-14 12:37
Core Insights - The article discusses the challenges and opportunities in the U.S. power supply, particularly in the context of AI and energy demands, highlighting the "impossible triangle" of energy policy, economic growth, and AI needs [5][6]. Group 1: Energy Supply Challenges - The U.S. power grid is aging, with an average establishment time of over 40 years, leading to structural issues and a mismatch between supply and demand [5]. - The Biden administration's goal to eliminate 100GW of fossil fuel power generation by 2030 is threatened by the sudden surge in AI energy demands, creating a dilemma for energy policy [5]. - The U.S. power system lacks the capability for large-scale inter-regional energy distribution, unlike China's "West-to-East Power Transmission" [5]. Group 2: AI Power Export Opportunities - The article outlines three main directions for AI power export to North America by 2026: power sources (gas turbines, SOFC), power grid equipment (transformers, large-scale storage), and energy-saving technologies for data centers (SST) [6][19]. - The demand for gas turbines is expected to grow significantly, with an average annual demand of 80-110GW projected from 2026 to 2030, driven by the need for stable and green energy sources [8][9]. Group 3: Gas Turbine Market Dynamics - The supply side of the gas turbine market faces challenges due to complex production processes and a shortage of skilled labor, with an average training period of 1-2 years for workers [8]. - Major gas turbine manufacturers like Siemens Energy, GE, and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries dominate the market, leading to a tight supply situation with orders extending to 2028-2029 [9][10]. Group 4: SOFC and Energy Storage - The demand for SOFC is expected to reach 1.5-2GW by 2026, with a growth rate of over 30-50% annually, driven by major tech companies' procurement needs [14]. - The large-scale storage market in North America is projected to see demand exceed 70-80GWh by 2026, supported by favorable economic returns and declining system costs [17]. Group 5: Data Center Energy Efficiency - SST technology is anticipated to significantly reduce energy consumption and space requirements for data centers, with a projected market space of $25-35 billion by 2027 [19]. - The SST market is expected to see a penetration rate of 15-20% by 2027, with major players including Eaton and emerging domestic manufacturers [19][20].
英伟达IR会和甲骨文不及预期的财报
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-11 16:02
Core Viewpoint - Oracle's Q2 FY2026 financial results were disappointing, leading to a significant drop in stock price and market capitalization, primarily due to lower-than-expected revenue and profit margins [1][2]. Financial Performance - Oracle reported Q2 revenue of $16.058 billion, a 14% year-over-year increase, but below market expectations [2]. - Cloud business revenue reached $8 billion, growing 33% year-over-year, with Infrastructure as a Service (IaaS) growing 66%, although it was below guidance [2]. - The backlog surged to $523 billion, with new Remaining Performance Obligations (RPO) of $67.7 billion [2]. Market Reaction - The market's reaction to Oracle's results was notably negative, contrasting with previous earnings reports where the backlog was positively received [2]. - Concerns were raised regarding Oracle's capital expenditures, which increased by 203% to $12 billion, resulting in negative free cash flow of $10 billion [6]. Analyst Ratings - Morgan Stanley maintained an "Equal Weight" rating with a target price of $320, citing pressure on revenue and profit margins [1]. - Citigroup rated Oracle as "Buy" with a target price of $370, indicating a long-term positive outlook despite short-term challenges [1]. - Goldman Sachs rated Oracle as "Neutral" with a target price of $220, reflecting concerns about risk and return balance [1]. AI Demand and Infrastructure - Despite the disappointing financial results, Oracle remains a leader in AI infrastructure, with GPU-related revenue surging 177% and GPU capacity deliveries increasing by 50% [6]. - The company has over 700 AI customers, including significant contracts with Meta and Nvidia, indicating robust demand for AI services [6].
H200权衡购买,中美“稳定”叙事
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-10 15:43
Core Viewpoint - The article discusses the positive developments in China-US relations, the competitive landscape of the domestic AI sector, and the impact of the H200 chip on local AI chip manufacturers. Group 1: China-US Relations - The relationship between China and the US is stabilizing, with ongoing discussions among major tech companies following Trump's announcement to relax restrictions on the H200 chip [5][6] - Both sides are engaging in active dialogue, indicating a willingness to cooperate for mutual benefit [5] Group 2: Domestic AI Landscape - The current competitive landscape in China's AI sector is characterized by three major players: ByteDance, Alibaba, and Tencent [7] - **Alibaba**: Leading in revenue growth through a dual approach of cloud infrastructure and model development, with a significant investment of 380 billion yuan over three years. Alibaba Cloud holds over 35% market share in China [9] - **ByteDance**: Aggressively expanding in AI, leveraging its platforms like Douyin and Toutiao to drive user engagement and market share, with a 253-fold increase in token usage [11] - **Tencent**: Focused on leveraging its existing ecosystem and data, though it lags behind Alibaba and ByteDance in AI model development [13] Group 3: Domestic AI Chips - Concerns about the H200 chip impacting local AI chip manufacturers are mitigated by the fact that the H200 will not directly compete with current domestic chips. The development of local chips is progressing rapidly, with positive expectations for products like Ascend 950 [14]
H200放开的理性分析
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-09 02:50
Core Viewpoint - The article discusses the potential release of NVIDIA's H200 in China, analyzing the implications from both the U.S. and Chinese perspectives, focusing on inventory clearance and market dynamics. Group 1: Reasons for U.S. Release - NVIDIA's CEO is advocating for the release of H200 to clear inventory, as the current market is dominated by the B series products, making it difficult to sell H200 in the U.S. [2] - The U.S. data centers are facing power supply issues, and the newer Blackwell architecture is more energy-efficient, leading to a gradual phase-out of older models like H100/H200. [2] - The ideal solution for NVIDIA is to legally sell H200 to China if it cannot be absorbed in the U.S. market. [2] Group 2: China's Attitude - There is a divided opinion in China regarding the release of H200; some believe that domestic AI chips are not yet competitive, while others fear that agreeing to the release could hinder local chip development and give the U.S. leverage. [3][11] - Economically, there seems to be no strong reason for China to ban the import of H200. [4] Group 3: Performance and Market Impact - The performance of H200, particularly in terms of computing power and memory bandwidth, currently exceeds that of domestic AI chips. [5] - Many existing codes are based on the Hopper architecture, making H200 easy to integrate for large companies. [8] - The domestic production capacity for high-end GPUs is not expected to significantly increase until 2027, indicating a continued reliance on foreign technology. [8] Group 4: Implications for Domestic Market - H200 has practical applications for Chinese customers, primarily in training scenarios, while domestic chips are more suited for inference tasks. [12] - The economic benefits of H200 may be limited due to rising memory prices, which could offset any price reductions. [13] - The overall impact of H200 on domestic GPU cards is expected to be minimal, as it does not directly compete with them. [13] Group 5: Market Reactions - The news about H200's potential release has caused market fluctuations, but the actual impact is likely to be limited, with key factors being policy direction, market demand, and funding conditions rather than just technical availability. [14]
AI出海链依旧火热,HRSG仍在持续
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-08 04:08
Group 1 - The article discusses the logic and marginal changes of AI computing hardware going overseas, highlighting that the market is currently performing well, particularly in AI computing-related sectors [1] - The power export market has shifted from SST to gas turbines and HRSG recently, indicating a change in focus within the industry [3][4] - The article emphasizes the strong performance of core targets in the gas turbine market, suggesting a positive outlook for these companies [4] Group 2 - The article notes that only three companies—Siemens Energy, GE, and Mitsubishi Heavy Industries—are currently capable of producing gas turbines, with a significant demand for these products due to electricity shortages in the U.S. [5] - Gas turbines are highlighted for their flexibility and efficiency, with the cost of electricity generation from large gas turbines being only $70-80 per megawatt hour, which remains competitive even with price increases [6][7] - The gas turbine market is entering a golden period of supply-demand balance, with strong demand driven by electrification, energy security needs, and explosive growth in data centers. Global gas turbine orders are expected to exceed production capacity until at least the early 2030s [7] Group 3 - HRSG prices are currently between $5-5.5 million per unit, with expectations to rise to $6-7 million per unit by early next year, driven by a 50% supply-demand gap [7] - The article provides insights into various companies in the domestic Google supply chain, detailing their products, market shares, and expected orders for 2026 [10][11]
2026年AI算力硬件出海逻辑及重大边际变化梳理
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-07 13:13
Group 1: Optical Modules - The optical module industry is experiencing the highest growth and performance realization among AI hardware this year, driven by high verification barriers for North American CSP tech giants and increasing demand due to the acceleration of supernode technology [2][4] - The average ratio of optical modules to GPUs is continuously increasing, with demand for 800G and 1.6T optical modules being revised upwards, indicating a strong upward resonance in demand [2][4] - By 2026, the demand for 1.6T optical modules is expected to exceed 30 million units, with an average price of $900-1000 per unit, while high-end EML optical chips are projected to face a 25-30% supply shortage [4][5] Group 2: Liquid Cooling - The liquid cooling industry has seen fluctuating trends this year, with initial enthusiasm dampened by low penetration rates, followed by a resurgence in August and significant breakthroughs in November [5][9] - The demand for liquid cooling in North America is expected to expand rapidly by 2026, with penetration rates in the NVIDIA ecosystem projected to rise from 20-30% to over 80-90% [7][9] - A leading domestic manufacturer is anticipated to capture a market share of 13-17% in North America by 2026, with Google expected to implement liquid cooling solutions for over 200,000 TPU V7 chips, creating a market space exceeding $24-28 billion [9][10] Group 3: AI PCB - The AI PCB industry is thriving, with companies like Shenghong, Huidian, and Shengyi achieving performance realization in North America, despite some quarterly fluctuations [10][12] - The supply side is seeing an increase in product value and manufacturing difficulty due to upgrades in customer chips and cabinet solutions, leading to a marginal differentiation in the supply landscape [10][12] - By 2026, the introduction of orthogonal backplanes is expected to significantly increase unit value, with M9 material processing anticipated to break through, although mass production is expected to ramp up in 2027 [12][13] Group 4: Server Power Supply - The server power supply market has shown similar trends to liquid cooling, with initial excitement followed by a divergence in performance among manufacturers [13][14] - The supply side is dominated by Taiwanese manufacturers, with a high concentration of market share, while domestic manufacturers are expected to make significant breakthroughs in North America by 2026 [14][15] - The adoption of HVDC technology is projected to replace traditional UPS solutions, with an expected market scale exceeding $20-30 billion by 2026 [15]
32张图片图解SemiAnalysis的亚马逊AI芯片Trainium3的深度解读
傅里叶的猫· 2025-12-07 13:13
Core Concepts - The article emphasizes the importance of performance per total cost of ownership (Perf per TCO) and operational flexibility in the design and deployment of AWS Trainium3 [4][8] - AWS adopts a multi-source component supplier strategy and custom chip partnerships to optimize TCO and accelerate time to market [4][8] AWS Software Strategy - AWS is transitioning from internal optimization to an open-source ecosystem, aiming to leverage contributions from external developers to enhance its software offerings [5][10] - The strategy includes releasing and open-sourcing new native PyTorch backends and developing an open software stack to expand AWS's ecosystem [5][10] Market Competition Landscape - The competitive landscape for Trainium3 includes major players like NVIDIA, AMD, and Google, with AWS needing to accelerate development to maintain its market position [7][10] - Trainium3's market strategy focuses on delivering strong performance per TCO and supporting a wide range of machine learning workloads [7][10] Hardware Specifications and Generational Comparison - Trainium3 features significant upgrades over its predecessor, Trainium2, including a doubling of performance metrics and increased memory capacity [12][11] - The article highlights the confusion caused by inconsistent naming conventions in AWS's product lineup and calls for clearer naming similar to NVIDIA and AMD [12][11] Architectural Evolution - The architecture of Trainium3 has evolved to include switched scale-up rack types, which provide better performance and flexibility compared to previous toroidal designs [25][26] - The article details the physical layout and key features of Trainium3's rack architecture, emphasizing its design philosophy focused on maintainability and reliability [27][28] Packaging and Manufacturing Technology - Trainium3 utilizes advanced packaging technologies such as CoWoS-R, which offers cost advantages and improved mechanical flexibility compared to traditional silicon interposers [18][19] - The manufacturing challenges associated with the N3P process node are discussed, highlighting the need for careful management of leakage and yield issues [15][20] Commercialization Acceleration Strategies - AWS is implementing strategies to enhance assembly efficiency, including a cableless design and the use of retimers to optimize supply chain management [43][44] - The company aims to adapt to data center readiness and accelerate commercialization through flexible deployment options [43][44] Network Architecture and Scalability - The article outlines the network architecture of Trainium3, focusing on its horizontal and vertical scaling capabilities, which are designed to optimize performance for machine learning tasks [48][49] - AWS's strategy includes minimizing total cost of ownership while maximizing flexibility in network switch options [48][49]