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理想财报不佳股价还涨了?大摩:“利空出尽”而非反转,未来关键是“自研芯片和产能爬坡”
Hua Er Jie Jian Wen· 2025-11-27 07:40
Core Insights - Despite weak Q3 financial results and lackluster guidance, Li Auto's stock price has unexpectedly rebounded, indicating a tactical rebound after the negative impact of the MEGA model has been fully priced in [1][2] Group 1: Market Reaction - The market's response to Li Auto's poor data coupled with rising stock prices is seen as a tactical rebound rather than a fundamental reversal, as investors confirm the negative factors surrounding the MEGA model have been fully accounted for [2] - Analysts suggest that investors should not overanalyze short-term fluctuations, as the stock price movement reflects emotional release rather than a shift in fundamentals [2] Group 2: Supply Chain and Profitability Challenges - Li Auto continues to face significant challenges related to supply chain bottlenecks, with the i6 model's production ramp-up progressing slowly, and battery shortages expected to persist until early 2026 [2] - The company anticipates a 3-4 percentage point decline in adjusted vehicle profit margins for Q4, down to 15-16%, primarily due to increased promotions and an unfavorable product mix [2][3] - Management remains hopeful that profit margins for the i6 can recover to above 15% once production stabilizes next year [2] Group 3: Future Prospects and Technology Bets - The future of Li Auto is heavily reliant on a "technology gamble" set for 2026, with plans to regain dominance in the extended-range electric vehicle (EREV) market through the upgraded L series [2][3] - A key variable in this strategy is the successful implementation of in-house developed technologies, particularly the M100 autonomous driving chip, which will be integral to the new L series and subsequent I series [3] - Li Auto is also set to introduce a self-developed powertrain solution that includes a 5C battery and enhanced electric drive system [3]
中信里昂:予理想汽车-W“优于大市”评级 目标价140港元
Zhi Tong Cai Jing· 2025-11-27 07:39
Core Viewpoint - CITIC Securities has issued a report rating Li Auto-W (02015) as "Outperform" with a target price of HKD 140, highlighting disappointing financial performance in Q3 due to recall costs and weak sales [1] Financial Performance - The company reported a net loss of RMB 630 million in Q3, with an adjusted loss of RMB 360 million, marking a disappointing shift from previous profitable quarters [1] - The anticipated total revenue for Q4 2025 is projected to be between RMB 26.5 billion and RMB 29.2 billion, reflecting a year-on-year decline of 40.1% to 34.2% [1] Product and Market Dynamics - The launch of new electric vehicle models "i6" and "i8" is expected to drive additional sales, although the core L series products are under pressure due to intense competition [1] - Despite the challenges, the average selling price and adjusted gross margin have improved due to a better product mix, which is expected to support a rebound in profitability by 2026 [1] Sales Guidance - Li Auto's sales guidance for Q4 2025 is set at 100,000 to 110,000 units, indicating a strategic focus on growth through the I series [1]
中信里昂:予理想汽车-W(02015)“优于大市”评级 目标价140港元
智通财经网· 2025-11-27 07:37
Core Viewpoint - CITIC Securities has issued a report rating Li Auto-W (02015) as "Outperform" with a target price of HKD 140, highlighting disappointing financial performance in Q3 due to recall costs and weak sales [1] Financial Performance - In Q3, Li Auto reported a net loss of RMB 630 million, with an adjusted loss of RMB 360 million, marking a significant decline from previous quarters of profitability [1] - The report indicates that the recall costs associated with the "Mega" model and sluggish sales were the primary factors contributing to the losses [1] Product and Sales Outlook - The introduction of new electric vehicle models "i6" and "i8" is expected to drive additional sales, although the core L series products are under pressure due to intense competition [1] - Average selling price and adjusted gross margin have improved due to better product mix, which is anticipated to support a rebound in profitability by 2026 [1] Future Projections - CITIC Securities forecasts that with the continued growth of the I series, Li Auto's sales guidance for Q4 2025 is projected to be between 100,000 to 110,000 units, with total revenue guidance ranging from RMB 26.5 billion to RMB 29.2 billion, reflecting a year-on-year decline of 40.1% to 34.2% [1]
财报季|理想官宣自研芯片,三季度利润因MEGA召回承压
Guan Cha Zhe Wang· 2025-11-27 07:34
导读:李想首次回应组织调整,官宣回归"创业公司的管理模式"。此外,理想汽车自研芯片"M100"也 将在明年开始量产上车。 (文 / 观察者网 周盛明 编辑 / 高莘) 11月26日,理想汽车投资者关系网站更新2025年第三季度财报。 从总体来看,由于MEGA召回、L系列处于换代前的销量低点、纯电产品产能爬坡等多方面的影响,理 想汽车三季度的交付量、营收、利润及利润率均有较为明显的下滑。 值得注意的是,在晚间的财报电话会议环节,理想汽车创始人、董事长兼CEO李想首次回应了近期管理 层频繁调整的背后原因,并官宣回归"创业公司的管理模式"。此外,理想汽车自研芯片"M100"也将在 明年开始量产上车。 MEGA召回显著影响利润率 2025年第三季度,理想汽车交付量为93211辆,同比下降39%。 理想汽车表示,三季度交付量受到纯电产品i6、i8的供应链瓶颈影响。据悉,目前理想i6、i8两款产品 的订单数突破10万台。 理想汽车表示,i6从11月开始使用"双供应商"(即宁德时代和欣旺达),保证一致的性能和质量。预计 2026年初将i6的月产能提升2万台。 此外,三季度总营收为274亿元,同比减少36.2%,环比减少9. ...
理想i6电池启用双供应商模式,明年初月产能达2万台
3 6 Ke· 2025-11-27 06:53
【#理想i6电池将启用双供应商模式#,明年初月产能稳定2万台】 尽管大量订单在手,但理想i6的产能却非常有限,10月份仅交付了数千辆,主要原因就在于电池供应短 缺。 据了解,目前理想i6采用的时宁德时代电池。有爆料称,理想i6第二家电池供应商是欣旺达,规格容量 和宁德时代版保持一致。 有大定车主透露,选择这款电池后,提车周期从3-5周大幅缩减至1-2周。 据快科技消息,理想汽车召开2025年Q3财报电话会议。理想方面表示,目前i6和i8正在经历产能爬坡。 11月起,理想i6的电池将启用双供应商模式,预期明年初i6月产能稳定在2万台。 今天理想发布了Q3财报,营收274亿元,总交付量为9.32万辆,两款新车理想i8和理想i6累计订单突破 10万台。 ...
理想汽车-W绩后涨超2% MEGA召回事件冲击业绩 将押注具身智能
Zhi Tong Cai Jing· 2025-11-27 06:37
Core Viewpoint - Li Auto's third-quarter financial results show a significant decline in revenue and a shift from profit to loss, raising concerns about the company's current operational challenges and future direction [1] Financial Performance - Li Auto reported third-quarter revenue of 27.4 billion yuan, a year-on-year decrease of 36.2% [1] - The company incurred a net loss of 620 million yuan, compared to a net profit of 2.8 billion yuan in the same period last year [1] - Gross margin for the third quarter was 16.3%, with a gross profit of 4.469 billion yuan; excluding the impact of the MEGA recall, the gross margin would have been 20.4% [1] - The MEGA recall event is estimated to have caused a loss of approximately 1.113 billion yuan for the third quarter [1] Recall Information - In October, Li Auto announced a recall of 11,411 MEGA vehicles to replace components such as coolant and power batteries due to insufficient corrosion resistance, which could lead to thermal runaway risks [1] Strategic Direction - CEO Li Xiang stated that for the next decade, Li Auto's products will evolve from electric vehicles and smart terminals to embodied robots [1] - The company plans to return to a "startup management model," moving away from a professional manager system [1] - Li Auto aims to redefine its products as "embodied intelligent" robots, focusing on AI's understanding of the physical world and proactive service capabilities [1] - The self-developed M100 chip AI system is expected to be delivered by 2026, marking a shift from passive functionality to proactive automated services [1]
港股异动 | 理想汽车-W(02015)绩后涨超2% MEGA召回事件冲击业绩 将押注具身智能
智通财经网· 2025-11-27 06:31
智通财经APP获悉,理想汽车-W(02015)绩后涨超2%,截至发稿,涨1.95%,报73.1港元,成交额6.74亿 港元。 消息面上,理想汽车发布三季度财报,第三季度该公司营收274亿元,同比下跌36.2%;净亏损为6.2亿 元,上年同期净利润为28亿元,由盈转亏。财报称,三季度该公司毛利率16.3%,毛利为44.69亿元;若 剔除MEGA召回支出影响,则毛利率为20.4%。由此计算,MEGA召回事件导致理想汽车第三季度损失 约11.13亿元。今年10月底,理想汽车宣布召回11411辆MEGA,将更换冷却液、动力电池等部件,主要 因冷却液防腐性能不足可能导致动力电池热失控风险。 值得关注的是,CEO李想在此次财报电话会上表示,未来十年,理想的产品将不再是电动车或智能终 端,而是具身机器人。在电话会上,李想宣布理想汽车面向第二个十年将坚定回归"创业公司管理模 式",摒弃职业经理人体系;将产品重新定义为"具身智能"机器人,聚焦AI对物理世界的理解与主动服 务能力。李想明确指出,搭载自研M100芯片的AI系统将于2026年交付,核心变革在于让汽车从"被动功 能堆砌"转变为"主动自动化服务"。 ...
理想汽车:理想AI眼镜Livis发布会将于12月3日19:30举行
Mei Ri Jing Ji Xin Wen· 2025-11-27 06:30
Core Viewpoint - Li Auto announced the launch event for its AI glasses, Livis, scheduled for December 3 at 19:30 [1] Company Summary - Li Auto is set to unveil its AI glasses, indicating a potential expansion into wearable technology [1]
招银国际:下调理想汽车-W至“持有”评级与目标价70港元 预期将降价以推动明年新代销量
Zhi Tong Cai Jing· 2025-11-27 06:16
Core Viewpoint - Zhuhai International has downgraded Li Auto-W (02015) from "Buy" to "Hold" due to a lack of catalysts in the coming months, lowering the target price to HKD 70, reflecting a price-to-earnings ratio of 40 and 18 times for 2026-2027 [1] Group 1: Financial Performance - Li Auto's third-quarter performance and operating losses were largely in line with expectations after excluding the one-time Mega recall costs, with a maintained gross margin of approximately 20.4% [1] - The company is projected to achieve sales of 500,000 units in 2026, but gross margin may narrow to 17%, corresponding to a profit of RMB 3.4 billion [1] Group 2: Market Competition - Due to intense market competition for range-extended models, it is anticipated that Li Auto may need to lower prices to boost sales of the new generation L series next year, suggesting that a decline in gross margin over the next two quarters may not be a short-term phenomenon [1]
招银国际:下调理想汽车-W(02015)至“持有”评级与目标价70港元 预期将降价以推动明年新代销量
智通财经网· 2025-11-27 06:10
Core Viewpoint - The report from Zhaoyin International downgrades Li Auto-W (02015) from "Buy" to "Hold" due to a lack of catalysts in the coming months, lowering the target price to HKD 70, reflecting a price-to-earnings ratio of 40 and 18 times for 2026-2027 [1] Financial Performance - Li Auto's third-quarter performance and operating losses were in line with expectations after excluding one-time Mega recall costs, with a maintained gross margin of approximately 20.4% [1] Market Competition - The intense market competition for range-extended models may require Li Auto to lower prices to boost sales of the new generation L series next year, suggesting that a decline in gross margin over the next two quarters may not be a short-term phenomenon [1] Future Projections - The group is expected to achieve sales of 500,000 units by 2026, although gross margin may narrow to 17%, corresponding to a profit of RMB 3.4 billion [1]